WWDC Recap: Apple Intelligence, iOS 18, watchOS 11, iPadOS 18, macOS Sequoia and more!

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Tom Anderson (0s)

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Tom Anderson (13s)

Hello and welcome to Basic AF. Tom Anderson, Jeff Battersby back together again on the biggest day of the year for Apple Nerds.

Jeff Battersby (23s)

That's us. That's us. That's...

Tom Anderson (24s)

That's us and that's you if you're listening. So welcome to another episode.

Tom Anderson (28s)

We're recording a little bit of an unusual time for us here on a Monday evening, but 8 p.m.

Jeff Battersby (33s)

8pm?

Tom Anderson (35s)

It's almost my bedtime, but we'll get through it.

Tom Anderson (37s)

It's the day of the WWDC keynote. We're going to get into that in just a couple of seconds.

Tom Anderson (44s)

Jeff, welcome. Good to see you again.

Jeff Battersby (47s)

Good to see you too, Tom, and was nice to sit and chat with you via text as we watched WWDC. Got that right this time. I want to point that out. I said WWC like we're some wrestling thing in the last episode. WWDC and yeah, some fun stuff, some really good things. So excited to get started.

Jeff Battersby (1m 8s)

Took Apple an hour and 45 minutes in man. It was like stepping into a stock car and racing.

Tom Anderson (1m 16s)

Phew, it was moving.

Jeff Battersby (1m 17s)

It flew. So we're going to try to keep it to less than an hour and 45 minutes here.

Tom Anderson (1m 23s)

Oh, it'll definitely be less than that because, but yeah, our, I'm hoping if, if not a little less.

Jeff Battersby (1m 30s)

Or less or less. We're going to aim for an hour. I'm keeping my eye on the clock. Yes.

Tom Anderson (1m 31s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (1m 32s)

So we're going to try to move quick.

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Jeff Battersby (1m 39s)

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Tom Anderson (2m 2s)

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Yeah, you bet I subscribe I did you do you pay me by showing up

Tom Anderson (3m 34s)

Well, jeez.

Jeff Battersby (3m 37s)

Right same as I pay you

Tom Anderson (3m 38s)

Alright, so, there is a stacked agenda for our discussion.

Tom Anderson (3m 43s)

We will go basically in the same order that the keynote went today.

Apple TV+

Tom Anderson (3m 48s)

So we'll just jump right into it.

Tom Anderson (3m 51s)

A couple of quick things that they talked on, or one in particular.

Tom Anderson (3m 55s)

Tim Cook mentioned over a billion users of Apple products or devices around the world.

Tom Anderson (4m)

world, so that's a huge audience and we'll dig into that.

Tom Anderson (4m 3s)

get a little further down into some of the discussion here.

Jeff Battersby (4m 4s)

We'd love a small portion of that.

Tom Anderson (4m 6s)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, we have a small portion of that, but we'd like a little bigger portion.

Tom Anderson (4m 13s)

Talked about Apple TV+ a little bit, I want some new shows coming out, new originals each and every week.

Tom Anderson (4m 19s)

Talked about some of the awards and all that kind of stuff.

Jeff Battersby (4m 21s)

Yeah and I will say Apple's, the stuff that they're producing, pretty brilliant. If you haven't seen what they're producing you should. Killers of the Flower Moon, just finished watching that again for myself the other night. Phenomenal work. Martin Scorsese, that's an Apple TV movie. So there's really good quality stuff on that platform and probably in my mind, to my mind, some of the best.

Tom Anderson (4m 50s)

And there you go anything else for Apple TV plus I think it was about it. It's just quick a little update they did for that

Jeff Battersby (4m 55s)

Yeah, no, that's it, you know, they just, they were selling what they're selling.

Tom Anderson (4m 57s)

Yep

Tom Anderson (5m)

Right, that's what they do. Okay, so as terms of operating systems They jumped into it with vision OS 2.0 coming up

visionOS 2

Tom Anderson (5m 9s)

They said 2,000 apps native for the platform at this point

Tom Anderson (5m 14s)

1.5 million if you include the iPad compatible apps that work on it as well

Tom Anderson (5m 21s)

Jeff had a snide comment before we started to record on that.

Jeff Battersby (5m 27s)

I won't say that here.

Tom Anderson (5m 31s)

But a couple of things that they're going to be adding to that,

Tom Anderson (5m 36s)

that are new in Vision OS 2, photos, gets a little bit of love there.

Tom Anderson (5m 42s)

You can take your existing 2D photos and create spatial photos from them,

Tom Anderson (5m 47s)

which will be interesting to see how well that works.

Tom Anderson (5m 50s)

AirPlay added to the photos app as well.

Tom Anderson (5m 55s)

Navigation, a couple of quick little gestures, some new ones.

Tom Anderson (5m 59s)

So one of the things that's been kind of, not awkward, but just didn't really seem optimized, was to get back to the home screen on Vision OS,

Tom Anderson (6m 7s)

like the wall of apps, you had to reach up and press the button.

Tom Anderson (6m 11s)

Won't have to do that anymore, you can do that with the gesture going forward, and you can access Control Center with the Gesture 2, which would be nice,

Tom Anderson (6m 17s)

'cause it's kind of awkward too.

Tom Anderson (6m 18s)

You have to look way up to see that sometimes.

Tom Anderson (6m 20s)

So nice little touches there.

Tom Anderson (6m 23s)

Really the thing that I was most interested in on the stuff that they showed today for it was the enhancements to the Mac virtual display.

Tom Anderson (6m 34s)

That's one of the things I use the most when it works.

Tom Anderson (6m 37s)

And higher display resolution,

Tom Anderson (6m 40s)

including an ultra-wide display, which looks nice.

Tom Anderson (6m 44s)

And they say two 4K monitors side by side.

Tom Anderson (6m 46s)

I like, or the equivalent of that.

Tom Anderson (6m 49s)

And I kind of like how they handled it.

Tom Anderson (6m 50s)

They didn't just put up a second screen next to it.

Tom Anderson (6m 53s)

They kind of just made a one big screen, which was cool.

Tom Anderson (6m 57s)

So hopefully that will work well.

Tom Anderson (6m 58s)

Train support was added to travel mode.

Tom Anderson (7m)

Previously it had just been airplanes.

Tom Anderson (7m 1s)

And of course they've added some new APIs,

Tom Anderson (7m 3s)

which is good to see.

Tom Anderson (7m 5s)

I mean, they haven't completely given up on it yet,

Tom Anderson (7m 8s)

which I don't think they will for a while, if they do.

Tom Anderson (7m 11s)

We'll see how things go with the cheaper stuff if it ever comes.

Tom Anderson (7m 14s)

Let's see, Canon's got a new spatial lens coming out for the R7.

Jeff Battersby (7m 18s)

Yeah, which I thought was pretty slick. I like that it was a

Jeff Battersby (7m 22s)

something for you to be able to take spatial photos and I presume videos. So pretty, pretty slick.

Tom Anderson (7m 27s)

Yeah, that looked good and they've got a workflow set up where you can take that footage, edit it on Final Cut Pro on your Mac.

Tom Anderson (7m 39s)

There's a Vimeo app on Vision Pro where you can view it inside of that.

Tom Anderson (7m 43s)

Something that they mentioned really quickly was they have their first immersive short film coming.

Tom Anderson (7m 50s)

So that'll be cool to kind of see that because one of the biggest complaints to date is there's There's just not very much immersive content.

Tom Anderson (7m 57s)

They're slowly putting it out.

Tom Anderson (7m 59s)

I do see they've got a new environment for Bora Bora.

Tom Anderson (8m 2s)

I don't know if the coming soon environments that have been coming soon since February are coming sooner than that one will be, but we'll see.

Tom Anderson (8m 11s)

They but really kind of the bigger news of it is Vision Pro will be available in eight new countries starting in the next month,

Tom Anderson (8m 19s)

some in June and then a few more in July with a total of eight.

Tom Anderson (8m 24s)

So that will open up the market a little bit for that.

Jeff Battersby (8m 27s)

Yep, mouse support coming, which is a thing that I don't think exists presently, does it?

Tom Anderson (8m 33s)

No, you can only use the trackpad.

Tom Anderson (8m 35s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (8m 36s)

So, mouse support coming, and also it can become an AirPlay receiver, which is kind of interesting as well. Anything here that intrigues you, Tom, I know we probably need to revisit your Vision Pro experience or lack thereof in an upcoming episode, but is there anything there that is particularly We uh...

Tom Anderson (8m 36s)

So that'll be good.

Tom Anderson (8m 59s)

So they've got a, they mentioned rearrangeable home view,

Tom Anderson (9m 2s)

which has been something that would be nice because as you add apps,

Tom Anderson (9m 8s)

what happens is that you couldn't change the order.

Tom Anderson (9m 11s)

And so if, you know, as you added them,

Tom Anderson (9m 13s)

they would just pile on to the second screen,

Tom Anderson (9m 15s)

third screen and everything.

Tom Anderson (9m 16s)

And so that'll be nice to be able to do that.

Tom Anderson (9m 18s)

Something they didn't talk about,

Tom Anderson (9m 21s)

but I don't know if it's coming up in like one of the developer sessions or something,

Tom Anderson (9m 26s)

But--

Tom Anderson (9m 29s)

With the Vision Pro, you can put windows throughout the space that you're in,

Tom Anderson (9m 33s)

whether it's your house, apartment, office, a park, whatever it is.

Tom Anderson (9m 38s)

But the problem is, when you turn off the device, those apps lose their place.

Tom Anderson (9m 43s)

And so when you reboot the device, everything's kind of back to default, so there's no persistence there.

Tom Anderson (9m 48s)

I did not see anything about that.

Tom Anderson (9m 54s)

don't see it in the this bento box thing we've got with all the.

Tom Anderson (9m 59s)

Stuff that they showed on screen there so maybe that'll come up in something but I didn't see it mentioned that would be nice because, you know, as you go through and you set those things up and then if you have to reboot it's a little bit of a pain to have to set them up again.

Jeff Battersby (10m 12s)

Okay, cool, cool, that's Vision OS.

Tom Anderson (10m 13s)

Right that that'll do it.

Jeff Battersby (10m 16s)

Look at us, we're almost as fast as Apple.

Tom Anderson (10m 18s)

You got to be a lot to talk about.

Jeff Battersby (10m 20s)

All right, let's jump on to iOS 18.

iOS 18

Jeff Battersby (10m 23s)

I'm gonna say right out of the box,

Jeff Battersby (10m 24s)

couple of pretty important things to my mind that have showed up here,

Jeff Battersby (10m 28s)

which we'll look at in a second.

Jeff Battersby (10m 31s)

The biggest of which is some new options for home screen arrangement.

Jeff Battersby (10m 37s)

So you can arrange apps and widgets anywhere.

Jeff Battersby (10m 39s)

It still looks to me like it's in grid.

Jeff Battersby (10m 43s)

So it's still gonna be stuck in some kind of grid,

Jeff Battersby (10m 45s)

but not left to right,

Jeff Battersby (10m 47s)

as it has been since the beginning of iOS time.

Jeff Battersby (10m 52s)

You have the ability to rearrange photos around,

Jeff Battersby (10m 55s)

or sorry, rearrange icons, app icons,

Jeff Battersby (10m 57s)

around photos that you have.

Jeff Battersby (10m 59s)

There's gonna be a dark mode option, which I love.

Tom Anderson (11m 2s)

Do you hear that by the way? Do you hear the Android people laughing at us?

Jeff Battersby (11m 7s)

Yeah, it's a little like,

Tom Anderson (11m 8s)

They're like, oh finally hey welcome to however many years ago that they've had that but at least we will be getting it You [laughing]

Jeff Battersby (11m 12s)

you know, Obi-Wan Kenobi,

Jeff Battersby (11m 15s)

feeling the death of a thousand people in the force.

Jeff Battersby (11m 21s)

But yeah, no, right, and dark mode icons,

Jeff Battersby (11m 24s)

color tinting for those icons as well.

Jeff Battersby (11m 28s)

I really like the looks of those.

Jeff Battersby (11m 30s)

I wanna say I really, and I'm kind of a 2D-ish guy.

Jeff Battersby (11m 34s)

So there's some nice, nice, nice, jeez, nice, very nice.

Jeff Battersby (11m 39s)

9th.

Tom Anderson (11m 40s)

Should have had another drink at dinner.

Jeff Battersby (11m 43s)

A drink and a CBD cocktail.

Jeff Battersby (11m 45s)

So you talk to me about how those things are going. Um, the, uh,

Jeff Battersby (11m 51s)

control center now has some organization options on it as well,

Jeff Battersby (11m 54s)

which looks pretty nice and we'll have multiple pages. So

Tom Anderson (11m 57s)

How do you feel about that?

Jeff Battersby (11m 59s)

I want to touch it. That's one of those things that I want to see, uh,

Jeff Battersby (12m 3s)

in real life. I, I like the idea. Um,

Jeff Battersby (12m 7s)

I spent actually a lot of time in control center. That's typically how I,

Jeff Battersby (12m 12s)

uh, do a number of other things. You know,

Jeff Battersby (12m 14s)

that's how I access a Shazam and things of that nature. Um,

Jeff Battersby (12m 20s)

but mostly it's for items that are kind of one-offs. Um,

Jeff Battersby (12m 25s)

and so I'm not a lot in there, but we'll see. And, uh, you know,

Jeff Battersby (12m 29s)

there are some music options there as well, or for Apple music.

Jeff Battersby (12m 34s)

So we'll, we'll see how that works. Um,

Jeff Battersby (12m 37s)

Apple has something that they call a controls gallery, which is.

Jeff Battersby (12m 42s)

something new and different where you can add items that you have.

Jeff Battersby (12m 47s)

And some of this also ties to a lock screen customization as well.

Tom Anderson (12m 52s)

Finally. So that's nice.

Jeff Battersby (12m 52s)

So we've got, yeah, right. Yeah, no, I do.

Jeff Battersby (12m 57s)

I do like that. So that's a, that's a pretty,

Jeff Battersby (13m 1s)

some pretty nice options. Again, I don't know how much how much I'll use it,

Jeff Battersby (13m 6s)

but you know, I may set it up once and leave it, which is typically the case.

Tom Anderson (13m 11s)

Yep [laughing]

Jeff Battersby (13m 12s)

And then not be able to find like the, like I do on my iPad,

Jeff Battersby (13m 16s)

a couple of words, the lock,

Jeff Battersby (13m 18s)

how do I lock the rotation on my, on my display?

Jeff Battersby (13m 22s)

And it's always in there. I just forget where it is because I'm that dumb.

Jeff Battersby (13m 29s)

So there's a,

Jeff Battersby (13m 31s)

I like the idea of having customization on the lock screen so we can do some different things there.

Jeff Battersby (13m 37s)

One of the things that I really thought was kind of nice is the.

Jeff Battersby (13m 42s)

An additional privacy option, which was lock an app.

Jeff Battersby (13m 47s)

Um, so we show people pictures and, you know, don't want them to go snooping around to see what your text messages are or anything like that.

Jeff Battersby (13m 55s)

You can lock, uh, something to a particular app, uh, so that people can only see what it is that you're showing to them.

Jeff Battersby (14m 3s)

Um, I, I like that a lot also, uh, limits.

Jeff Battersby (14m 9s)

information, contact information.

Jeff Battersby (14m 13s)

which contacts an app can see. So there's a lot of new privacy.

Tom Anderson (14m 17s)

Yeah, that's good. I like that.

Jeff Battersby (14m 19s)

Yeah, I do too. You know, stick it to an email address as opposed to email address and phone number, you know, whatever else is there. So some nice things there. So I like the privacy

Jeff Battersby (14m 34s)

updates that that take place there. Once an app is locked. If somebody tries to, you know, go someplace else it will.

Jeff Battersby (14m 42s)

use face ID or touch ID presumably to pass that and go back to where it needs to go.

Jeff Battersby (14m 48s)

So pretty nice feature again, the functionality of that, how it's going to work, you know, how easy it is to turn on when you're handing your phone over for somebody to look at a picture or a slideshow or whatever it is, you know, that remains to be seen.

Jeff Battersby (15m 4s)

I presume it'll be pretty easy, but you know, it, no, cause I I don't let anybody see my phone.

Tom Anderson (15m 6s)

You think you'll use that a lot?

Tom Anderson (15m 10s)

Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I show pictures and, you know, I'll hand it off and stuff,

Tom Anderson (15m 15s)

but it's to people I know and trust. So I'm like, whatever. But, but, you know, I'm not,

Tom Anderson (15m 22s)

I could see there's a demographic that is more, I'll put it to you this way, when I was 25 or 30

Tom Anderson (15m 29s)

and more, more involved socially, like I was out, you know, because you go out and you're

Tom Anderson (15m 36s)

let me see that. And you know, sometimes it would be passed around to people you didn't really know.

Tom Anderson (15m 40s)

And I could see that there. And I'm pretty sure that's, you know, a good use case for that. But that, yes, I don't leave the house much. But

Jeff Battersby (15m 47s)

Proven by the fact that you're in a closet right now, but that's another.

Tom Anderson (15m 51s)

I am. Yeah, well, it's quite a spot in the house. So yeah, so there you go.

Jeff Battersby (15m 54s)

Yeah, I gotcha.

Jeff Battersby (15m 55s)

And I'm in the basement with, with, with Jeffrey and Ted.

Tom Anderson (15m 57s)

Glamorous life of podcasters. Messages got some updates.

Jeff Battersby (15m 59s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (16m 2s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (16m 4s)

Yes, so.

Tom Anderson (16m 6s)

Uh, tap backs, uh, they've, they've built that out a little bit more.

Tom Anderson (16m 10s)

So of course, that's when you get a message coming in, you can tap it, you can do a thumbs up, ha ha exclamation points.

Tom Anderson (16m 15s)

Now you can slap some emojis on there because the world could just not get enough emojis.

Jeff Battersby (16m 19s)

Emojis, yeah?

Tom Anderson (16m 20s)

Um, scheduled messages, which I thought was interesting.

Tom Anderson (16m 25s)

Uh, I'm curious to see if we'll ever use that.

Tom Anderson (16m 27s)

I don't want to say I won't because maybe, but I don't know.

Tom Anderson (16m 32s)

Usually I just send the message.

Tom Anderson (16m 33s)

It doesn't matter what time it is.

Tom Anderson (16m 34s)

Most people have their notifications.

Tom Anderson (16m 37s)

or whatever.

Tom Anderson (16m 38s)

So we'll see, um, text formatting that I did like, um, yeah, of course,

Jeff Battersby (16m 43s)

I like that a lot.

Jeff Battersby (16m 44s)

Um, that's something that I, what are you talking about?

Tom Anderson (16m 45s)

selecting that text is going to be aggravating is get out, but yeah.

Tom Anderson (16m 50s)

Um, text effects, they added some, uh, additional effects for the, the text messages themselves, which used to be, I think currently, if you hold down the arrow, it'll give you your options, like with emphasis or balloons or hidden, I forget what they...

Jeff Battersby (17m 4s)

Correct, there's a whole bunch of them.

Tom Anderson (17m 6s)

call it, Invisible Ink, I think they call that one.

Jeff Battersby (17m 8s)

But those are very specific.

Tom Anderson (17m 10s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (17m 11s)

And this is actually, you can have a text effect on a single word in a text message now,

Tom Anderson (17m 14s)

Right, right.

Jeff Battersby (17m 16s)

which, you know, I might be inclined to use it.

Tom Anderson (17m 18s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (17m 18s)

I don't know, because those kinds of things,

Jeff Battersby (17m 21s)

I don't use a lot of emoji, a lot of emoji,

Jeff Battersby (17m 24s)

but that would be fun.

Tom Anderson (17m 24s)

I'll do it just to aggravate people.

Jeff Battersby (17m 26s)

Right, now I'll do something to piss you off.

Tom Anderson (17m 27s)

Yeah, well, guaranteed, but that's okay.

Jeff Battersby (17m 28s)

That's... [laughs]

Tom Anderson (17m 32s)

Something that I thought was pretty cool,

Tom Anderson (17m 34s)

messages via satellite.

Jeff Battersby (17m 36s)

Yes.

Tom Anderson (17m 37s)

Which is nice if you're out and you need it.

Jeff Battersby (17m 37s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (17m 39s)

You want to message somebody end-to-end encrypted,

Tom Anderson (17m 41s)

including the SMS, which I thought was cool.

Tom Anderson (17m 44s)

And of course, RCS support is coming as well.

Tom Anderson (17m 47s)

That's something people have been asking for,

Tom Anderson (17m 50s)

for some improved support when you're messaging the green bubble people.

Jeff Battersby (17m 55s)

Well, unless, unless you're in the UK or the European Union where they're complaining about the fact that, the fact that they're not blue and therefore people look down their noses.

Tom Anderson (17m 56s)

And you know the bubble colors are not going to change.

Tom Anderson (18m 10s)

Yes they should.

Jeff Battersby (18m 11s)

Well, we're starting our own little war, but yeah, why not?

Tom Anderson (18m 14s)

Yeah. UK's got more important things to worry about. They should focus on that.

Tom Anderson (18m 19s)

Um yeah. All right so messages looking pretty good um to round out iOS because I know we don't want to go two hours.

Tom Anderson (18m 28s)

Mail gets categorization on device. Um so if you've used Gmail at all you know it's got its categories across the top a little do social promotional things, all those types of things.

Tom Anderson (18m 40s)

So it'll categorize those.

Tom Anderson (18m 41s)

What I thought was a nice touch that I have not seen in Gmail is the digest view.

Tom Anderson (18m 46s)

Looks very nice.

Jeff Battersby (18m 47s)

Yeah, I like that, very great.

Tom Anderson (18m 47s)

Yeah, yeah, looks good.

Jeff Battersby (18m 49s)

I'm going to throw in this one just because it's important to me.

Jeff Battersby (18m 53s)

There's now new topographic maps, topological maps.

Tom Anderson (18m 57s)

thought about you when they said that.

Jeff Battersby (18m 57s)

Yeah, right. I almost said something to you as we were texting back and forth.

Jeff Battersby (19m 2s)

So trails, I currently use all trails.

Jeff Battersby (19m 4s)

I like it, that sucks on watch,

Jeff Battersby (19m 6s)

and I've sent something to them about it.

Jeff Battersby (19m 8s)

But being able to have trail maps,

Jeff Battersby (19m 12s)

follow those trail maps, create your own customized trails,

Jeff Battersby (19m 15s)

and offline.

Jeff Battersby (19m 17s)

So for some reason, you know, you're in some valley where the cell towers don't reach, you will have map access in those locations. So quite nice. I like that. Like that feature.

Jeff Battersby (19m 32s)

Other things we can skip over but we'll say quickly there's some pretty nice updates to wallet, the journal app, gaming, gaming is not something I do a ton of on, on iOS.

Jeff Battersby (19m 44s)

us. Huge redesigns, though, to photo.

Jeff Battersby (19m 48s)

And, uh, they have, um, made some changes to the organization,

Jeff Battersby (19m 53s)

to the library,

Jeff Battersby (19m 54s)

to the way that you can look at and set up what it is that you're doing.

Jeff Battersby (19m 59s)

And this is kind of the subtleties of Apple doesn't refer to it as AI.

Jeff Battersby (20m 4s)

Well, they do as Apple intelligence, which we'll get into it a little,

Jeff Battersby (20m 8s)

a little more at the end of this. Um,

Jeff Battersby (20m 11s)

but one of the things that I noticed in a lot of these new

Jeff Battersby (20m 17s)

OS rollouts are things that, um,

Jeff Battersby (20m 21s)

indicate that there's a lot more intelligence, uh,

Jeff Battersby (20m 23s)

some more thought put into to what's being done here. So you can, you know,

Jeff Battersby (20m 29s)

say that I put in a search for, um,

Jeff Battersby (20m 34s)

hike. I went on with Tom on Tuesday last year or something like that.

Jeff Battersby (20m 40s)

And it will find photos, uh, with Tom in them, uh, Tuesday,

Jeff Battersby (20m 45s)

God knows what month it was in.

Jeff Battersby (20m 47s)

Since I didn't specify that, uh, but last year and, uh, every time that we hiked on a Tuesday, uh, you could have photos from that.

Jeff Battersby (20m 54s)

So it's, it's got the ability to, to be much more granular, I think, uh, than it has been in the past and a little more intelligent in, in that way.

Jeff Battersby (21m 4s)

We'll remember trips.

Jeff Battersby (21m 6s)

Um, you can have people groups.

Jeff Battersby (21m 9s)

Uh, so some pretty nice features, I think, um, in, in.

Tom Anderson (21m 12s)

Yeah, yeah, I think so though it looked pretty good. They've got collections

Tom Anderson (21m 16s)

Kind of built in you get your recent days, which is nice memories people and pets so forth people groups

Tom Anderson (21m 24s)

It's good. You can kind of throw the family in there which

Tom Anderson (21m 28s)

Tends to surface those anyway, and then trips is a new thing they have

Tom Anderson (21m 32s)

So that'll be good And then there is a carousel

Tom Anderson (21m 36s)

Which is new and that would show your favorites featured photos that the app itself will surface so that?

Tom Anderson (21m 42s)

More of that machine learning which is funny you and I comment to going back and forth and the messages there that you know there Was AI stuff sprinkled all over these?

Tom Anderson (21m 51s)

You know different sections before they even got to the kind of the primary AI section where they actually use that term

Tom Anderson (21m 59s)

Machine learning you know they stayed with that script which they've been using for years now

Tom Anderson (22m 4s)

And you can add custom items to the carousel to that updates regularly as you add more pictures

Tom Anderson (22m 9s)

Um, and it, you know, does it's indexing and.

Tom Anderson (22m 12s)

All the stuff that it does.

Tom Anderson (22m 13s)

Um, and then they mentioned really quickly, reminders, integration and calendar, um, is, is coming too.

Jeff Battersby (22m 21s)

Yeah. Nice feature. Um, I will say one of the things kind of interesting,

Jeff Battersby (22m 24s)

and I said this to you before we started recording is, you know, we,

Jeff Battersby (22m 28s)

we played what 32nd blip of,

Jeff Battersby (22m 32s)

of it in the last episode of the Google event where it was a,

Jeff Battersby (22m 37s)

I, I, I, I, you know, it was one thing after, after another, um,

Jeff Battersby (22m 42s)

there was no direct mention of that until we got to Apple intelligence.

Jeff Battersby (22m 46s)

It's all is indicated in some of the features that are showing up in these iOS

Jeff Battersby (22m 51s)

or, you know, the various things that they're doing to the heart of these applications, um, that you go, Oh,

Jeff Battersby (22m 59s)

that must be this in your own head, as opposed to somebody telling you,

Jeff Battersby (23m 3s)

guess what? We can, uh, we can do this by the way.

Jeff Battersby (23m 6s)

Also some features that you may have seen, um, in, in like

Jeff Battersby (23m 11s)

the Google pixel where you can very easily wipe out people,

Jeff Battersby (23m 17s)

um, you know, that are in photo bombing your photos,

Jeff Battersby (23m 20s)

you can get rid of them pretty easily.

Jeff Battersby (23m 21s)

So some nice features built in there and it looks like it's going to be pretty useful, pretty good.

Jeff Battersby (23m 27s)

So that's, that was nice to see.

Tom Anderson (23m 29s)

Yep, okay next section home and audio so air pods got some gestures

Home & Audio

Jeff Battersby (23m 33s)

Yes.

Jeff Battersby (23m 36s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (23m 37s)

And so gestures being you know, if, if you're getting a phone call and you don't want to be talking, like oftentimes when I'm on a train or a plane or, well, better not be having my phone on, on the train, plane, I guess.

Jeff Battersby (23m 51s)

But I don't want to answer the phone and I want to, don't want to have to say, don't answer that, you know, or whatever it is you can shake your head.

Jeff Battersby (23m 59s)

Yes or no.

Jeff Battersby (24m)

And the AirPods, AirPods pro I think is the key here.

Jeff Battersby (24m 4s)

I don't think it was just straight up AirPods.

Jeff Battersby (24m 7s)

AirPods pro will recognize your gesture.

Jeff Battersby (24m 13s)

You know, the fact that you've either nodded your head or shaking your head left and right now, and it will perform whatever it is that you're asking for.

Jeff Battersby (24m 21s)

Which I like that. Also some voice isolation features.

Jeff Battersby (24m 26s)

So if you're making a phone call and there is noise all around you,

Jeff Battersby (24m 32s)

these AirPods pro will now be able to block out any of that background sound and

Jeff Battersby (24m 38s)

focus in on your voice, which is pretty, uh, pretty slick.

Jeff Battersby (24m 41s)

And then Apple is opening up some APIs for gamers for these things as well.

Tom Anderson (24m 47s)

Indeed. And so for Apple TV, they spent a couple of minutes talking about that.

Tom Anderson (24m 54s)

One of the things they've added is a new feature called Insight.

Tom Anderson (24m 56s)

So if you're watching something and you're like, hey, I know that guy.

Tom Anderson (25m 1s)

What else they've been in?

Tom Anderson (25m 2s)

And you can swipe down on the remote and it'll show you the actors, characters

Tom Anderson (25m 6s)

and identify any music playing in the scene as well.

Tom Anderson (25m 8s)

Also works if you're using the iPhone remote

Jeff Battersby (25m 11s)

Mm-hmm.

Tom Anderson (25m 13s)

app. I guess it's not really an app now.

Tom Anderson (25m 15s)

control center.

Tom Anderson (25m 17s)

As you can see, there's a lot of different things that you can do with the screen saver.

Tom Anderson (25m 25s)

21.9 projectors are becoming a thing more and more, so that's been added for that.

Tom Anderson (25m 31s)

Screen savers, which have always been, especially in the last 8-10 years it seems, been delightful on Apple TV.

Tom Anderson (25m 40s)

Of course, they brought those to Mac last year, which is one of the big features that they had for Sonoma.

Tom Anderson (25m 48s)

They've added some more capabilities for those. You can use your own portraits as a screen saver TV in movies.

Tom Anderson (25m 54s)

They've got some for that too. Snoopy they're bringing in, which honestly I kind of perked up on that one,

Tom Anderson (26m)

because even though I don't use it a whole lot, the watch face with Snoopy is still very delightful.

Jeff Battersby (26m 4s)

Yes, I agree.

Tom Anderson (26m 4s)

I always liked that one.

Tom Anderson (26m 6s)

And they didn't show this, but they mentioned that there's a redesigned Apple Fitness+ interface.

Jeff Battersby (26m 11s)

Yeah, I'd be interested to see what that looks like.

Jeff Battersby (26m 15s)

That's a wintertime thing for me.

Jeff Battersby (26m 16s)

I typically use Apple Fitness+ when it's dark outside and I don't wanna go anywhere.

Jeff Battersby (26m 23s)

But yeah, some nice things.

Jeff Battersby (26m 25s)

I like that.

Jeff Battersby (26m 26s)

And that feature, that inside feature,

Jeff Battersby (26m 28s)

if you've used Amazon Prime, it's the same idea as that.

Jeff Battersby (26m 32s)

Although what I really do like is that the music piece becomes available.

Jeff Battersby (26m 38s)

I often catch myself hearing.

Jeff Battersby (26m 41s)

Something some song, you know, in some show and Apple TV plus and wanting to know what it is and you can quickly add it either from and this was a nice nice option. You can either add it using the remote from from the the Apple TV screen or if you are using the the app, you know using that interface.

Jeff Battersby (27m 3s)

It gives you the option to not bring any of that up on the screen. You can look at it on your phone and add it there. So I like that.

Tom Anderson (27m 9s)

Yeah, nice. Yep. All right on to watch OS

watchOS 11

Jeff Battersby (27m 16s)

Yes, sir.

Tom Anderson (27m 16s)

Okay Okay, so they have added a couple of new

Jeff Battersby (27m 17s)

Talk to me.

Tom Anderson (27m 23s)

Applications and features so training load is one and the vitals app is another so training load is

Tom Anderson (27m 29s)

One that I use a third-party app for now called

Tom Anderson (27m 34s)

It's 30 bucks a year, so it's not a lot of money.

Tom Anderson (27m 39s)

It basically looks at your training history and then the health data, some of the health data that's captured by the watch.

Tom Anderson (27m 47s)

So heart rate, heart rate variability, your sleep, those types of things.

Tom Anderson (27m 52s)

I've used that for a couple of years now at this point.

Tom Anderson (27m 55s)

And is it super accurate, like, you know, if it says, like right now it says my recovery is 47%.

Tom Anderson (28m 2s)

You know, I don't know.

Tom Anderson (28m 9s)

You can really feel it.

Tom Anderson (28m 10s)

And there has been times where it's been like super low.

Tom Anderson (28m 13s)

And I can tell, like, you know, just been a little off, like maybe it's under the weather a little bit.

Tom Anderson (28m 19s)

But so they've built this in and they've also added a vitals app.

Tom Anderson (28m 24s)

And this kind of goes back to our wishlist show from last year where I was like hoping they'd make some of that data that they're collecting more useful.

Tom Anderson (28m 33s)

And so this is what it will do is it'll show your trends.

Tom Anderson (28m 36s)

So your heart rate and sleep and overnight vital.

Tom Anderson (28m 39s)

It will measure them and then as they kind of drift out of range, perhaps it'll, it'll let you know, um, what's going on with that. Um, and, and the athletic app does some of that too. So I feel kind of bad for third party developers as Apple continues to march into some of these spaces because they've been doing that stuff for a long time and it's a very, it's a balance there that Apple has to do.

Tom Anderson (29m 3s)

But it is nice to see it first party because I think it just get more people aware of it and using it.

Tom Anderson (29m 9s)

Yeah, yeah. So looking forward to those. Uh, they added some new views for pregnancy. So if you're pregnant and you can track your stats along with that. Um, what else we got?

Jeff Battersby (29m 24s)

I've got some smart stacks that are aware.

Jeff Battersby (29m 27s)

So smarter smart stacks,

Jeff Battersby (29m 30s)

I guess is what we're going to say.

Jeff Battersby (29m 32s)

You can add, it will add widgets as it sees fit.

Jeff Battersby (29m 37s)

For example, if there's a change in the weather,

Jeff Battersby (29m 40s)

you might see a new weather widget appear,

Jeff Battersby (29m 42s)

which is nice live activities.

Jeff Battersby (29m 45s)

Check-ins added for workouts.

Jeff Battersby (29m 47s)

I don't know exactly what.

Tom Anderson (29m 52s)

So the, kind of the example they gave on that is in the workouts app.

Tom Anderson (29m 56s)

So if you're, they, they said, if you're on an outdoor run and maybe it's later in the evening or something, and, uh, there's a little, just like for the check-in on the phone, there's a little button there so you could check in,

Tom Anderson (30m 7s)

let people know you made it home.

Jeff Battersby (30m 8s)

Say I'm alive. Got it. Good. Fair. I like that. Great. As you fall asleep, opposite me the podcast tap and go Nope, I'm alive. I'm alive. Yeah, so that's Yeah, yeah, like that.

Tom Anderson (30m 8s)

Right.

Tom Anderson (30m 9s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (30m 10s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (30m 10s)

So I'll do that with you.

Tom Anderson (30m 20s)

Still good.

Tom Anderson (30m 22s)

Live activities was nice.

Tom Anderson (30m 23s)

Addition to the stacks.

Jeff Battersby (30m 28s)

Couple of other things that I thought were great. Again, I mentioned this for iOS, but they're now turn by turn directions for hiking on the watch app, which will be a good

Jeff Battersby (30m 38s)

some other options for photo face that are allowing you to have kind of little slicker options when it comes to photos and it's some work being done behind the scenes where I can't remember if it was iOS or watch OS, I presume it's iOS will go through your photos and make suggestions as to which photos in your photo library makes sense for the best the best photo faces. So that's very nice feature like that.

Jeff Battersby (31m 8s)

And then some other ticketing options related to, you know, either going to a party or show or stepping on an airplane. So a couple of nice, nice things in in there as well.

Jeff Battersby (31m 20s)

And I didn't hear this mentioned but I'm seeing on here that there's translate.

Jeff Battersby (31m 26s)

So the, the translation ability that iOS has is now coming to the, the watch as well.

Jeff Battersby (31m 32s)

So that could be that could be a nice, nice feature.

Tom Anderson (31m 36s)

Yes, and interactive widgets, which would be nice.

Jeff Battersby (31m 39s)

Yes, indeed. Anything else watchy that you want to say.

Tom Anderson (31m 41s)

Okay.

Tom Anderson (31m 44s)

Well, we didn't get third-party watch faces,

Tom Anderson (31m 46s)

which was on my list, but I didn't expect it,

Jeff Battersby (31m 47s)

Been on your list for a minute.

Tom Anderson (31m 50s)

but you know, it is what it is.

Tom Anderson (31m 53s)

Okay, on to iPad OS.

iPadOS 18

Jeff Battersby (31m 56s)

Okay, a couple of biggies. Let's not bury the lead because a lot of this stuff that that's in here was already in

Jeff Battersby (32m 2s)

What we talked about in ios, so, you know customization of the home screen and things of that nature

Jeff Battersby (32m 8s)

the big thing

Jeff Battersby (32m 10s)

Calculator

Jeff Battersby (32m 13s)

All right, so cool got a calculator

Jeff Battersby (32m 16s)

um Like that except for apple kind of pulled back the curtain on something I think is really pretty slick. Uh

Jeff Battersby (32m 24s)

Available in the in the

Jeff Battersby (32m 26s)

Calculator app, but more importantly also available if you use use this or decide to use this in the notes app

Jeff Battersby (32m 34s)

It will let you

Jeff Battersby (32m 37s)

Do math notes is what they're calling it with your Apple pencil So if you scribble out an equation and put an equals after it it will actually

Jeff Battersby (32m 48s)

Run the the numbers on that particular equation. So anything that you can do in the scientific calculator

Jeff Battersby (32m 54s)

Uh on the you know

Jeff Battersby (32m 56s)

Keypad you can also do by drawing out an equation in in

Jeff Battersby (33m 2s)

the math notes

Jeff Battersby (33m 4s)

Feature as I said, you can also do this in notes. It will create graphs

Jeff Battersby (33m 8s)

Um it really to see it the way it worked. Uh, you know people have been talking a long time about

Jeff Battersby (33m 15s)

the ability to uh Use a calculator. I use pcalc on my

Jeff Battersby (33m 20s)

On my uh ipad when I need a calculator, which is only intermittently

Jeff Battersby (33m 26s)

The way this works

Jeff Battersby (33m 28s)

Is a little bit of genius. I think I I don't know that i've seen anything like it

Jeff Battersby (33m 34s)

and uh It it is live and interactive So if you change an equation that you've put an equal sign on say, you know, you you have

Jeff Battersby (33m 44s)

Some kind of quadratic occasion

Jeff Battersby (33m 47s)

Maybe I shouldn't have had should not have had something with cbd and a

Tom Anderson (33m 50s)

Quadratic occasion.

Tom Anderson (33m 52s)

Here's the show title.

Jeff Battersby (33m 53s)

Quad

Jeff Battersby (33m 57s)

All right quadratic equation

Jeff Battersby (34m 1s)

um, and then you put a line underneath it and then

Jeff Battersby (34m 6s)

Put you know a two it will divide whatever it is

Jeff Battersby (34m 9s)

The total is on the top by two and put that in the equals column Another thing if you have a list of numbers going down and you put a line under it It will automatically calculate the the total of the the lines really

Jeff Battersby (34m 22s)

You know apple does things

Jeff Battersby (34m 25s)

often

Jeff Battersby (34m 26s)

and in some cases so often that I think we just get dulled to it that are magical almost and this to me is magical.

Tom Anderson (34m 36s)

Yeah this is this is awesome. I'll never use it but it's awesome like I may use let me walk that back a little bit like in the notes app I might you know rough out something be like okay this is time blah blah but you know heavy use of math notes is not for me but if I were a student oh my gosh yeah like my son's starting college in the fall he's like dude that looks great.

Jeff Battersby (34m 52s)

Yeah, brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Truly amazing feature. So I am

Tom Anderson (34m 57s)

I was like yeah so he's he's pumped up about that.

Jeff Battersby (35m 2s)

interested to try it out. You know, I don't do a lot of math either. I'm not gonna have a lot of occasion to use it. But the fact that I that this is there and available. You know, you go back to the days of Newton, and everybody getting, you know,

Jeff Battersby (35m 15s)

torqued at Apple trying to do handwriting recognition and to to think that these days--

Jeff Battersby (35m 23s)

Doonesbury, I'm looking at you.

Tom Anderson (35m 25s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (35m 25s)

I don't know if you remember the Doonesbury comics from back in the day.

Jeff Battersby (35m 30s)

But the capabilities built into this are amazing.

Jeff Battersby (35m 37s)

So good on Apple for waiting to add a calculator to the iPad for something that truly looks delightful.

Tom Anderson (35m 47s)

Mm-hmm. Yep, it definitely does. Uh, let's see. So what else did they do? They have added a floating tab bar

Jeff Battersby (35m 47s)

Delightful.

Jeff Battersby (35m 57s)

Yes, which is what I had earlier in the evening.

Tom Anderson (35m 57s)

Not a floating tab at the bar just a floating tab bar

Tom Anderson (36m 2s)

Which is explaining some things

Jeff Battersby (36m 4s)

Yeah, that's why I can't get three sentences out correct.

Tom Anderson (36m 6s)

So the tab bar is going to kind of hang out around the top of the screen which will free up the

Tom Anderson (36m 12s)

Content of the screen to go edge to edge on a more regular basis, but if you need that

Tom Anderson (36m 17s)

Sidebar, you would tap up on the floating sidebar and then the sidebar would kind of whip in just you know The left-hand side there like it does today, but it's just kind of permanently there. So that looks pretty interesting I think they keep creeping closer and closer to kind of like file menus and and stuff in iPad OS

Tom Anderson (36m 36s)

Maybe another five years. They'll have them

Jeff Battersby (36m 36s)

Yes. [laughs]

Tom Anderson (36m 39s)

but I Do think that that looks pretty good

Tom Anderson (36m 45s)

Back on the the pencil side of things real quick

Tom Anderson (36m 47s)

they added smart script and notes so that it will use,

Tom Anderson (36m 51s)

again, they don't call it AI,

Tom Anderson (36m 54s)

they call it machine learning to improve handwriting in real time.

Tom Anderson (36m 57s)

And we commented, boy, this is a feature for us because we have terrible handwriting and if it can fix hours and make it more legible,

Tom Anderson (37m 4s)

I think they're really onto something 'cause my writing is not very good at all.

Jeff Battersby (37m 8s)

Yeah. And I think the interesting thing about that is like right now, if you,

Jeff Battersby (37m 11s)

if you write, you know,

Jeff Battersby (37m 13s)

if you use Apple pencil to write in notes or something like that,

Jeff Battersby (37m 17s)

what it does is it will convert your written text to type to text.

Jeff Battersby (37m 22s)

This actually, uh,

Jeff Battersby (37m 23s)

does a cleaned up approximation of your own writing, which is pretty slick.

Jeff Battersby (37m 28s)

So a readable version in my case of my, of my writing is what is what you get from this, so it's, it really looks like.

Jeff Battersby (37m 38s)

an amazing feature. And again, as you said, machine learning shows up here,

Jeff Battersby (37m 41s)

which is Apple's vernacular and has been for quite some time for what everybody

Jeff Battersby (37m 47s)

now calls artificial intelligence.

Tom Anderson (37m 50s)

Yes, and they added some gestures there for

Tom Anderson (37m 53s)

Manipulating that text where you can just kind of scribble over it and erase it

Tom Anderson (37m 56s)

That's been in some third-party apps for a while, but it'll be nice to have in notes

Tom Anderson (38m 2s)

Let's see collapsible sections. They added to notes while we're talking about notes. I like that. I use that in

Tom Anderson (38m 9s)

Bear a good bit used it in craft a lot

Tom Anderson (38m 13s)

in certain Circumstances so that will be nice to have as well as they continue to improve notes

Tom Anderson (38m 20s)

I mean, they really have done a lot of work with notes, so.

Jeff Battersby (38m 23s)

Yeah. Notes is great. I mean, it has its limitations, but it's definitely, uh,

Tom Anderson (38m 28s)

For free, it's hard to beat, yeah.

Jeff Battersby (38m 28s)

definitely correct. Free as always.

Tom Anderson (38m 33s)

They added screen sharing in share play, which is nice when you need to do that.

Tom Anderson (38m 38s)

Something I thought was kind of cool with that is you could use the pencil and illustrate, touch up there, and you could just draw an arrow to it.

Jeff Battersby (38m 43s)

Yeah.

Tom Anderson (38m 46s)

I'm like, man, that's pretty good, or circle things.

Jeff Battersby (38m 47s)

So when you're, uh, helping mom or dad or, you know, cousin Tillie or your grandma or Tom, in my case, um, you have the ability to, uh, share their iPad screen now, which is nice.

Tom Anderson (38m 50s)

Mm-hm, whatever it is, right?

Jeff Battersby (39m 2s)

And, and when you're sharing their iPad screen and the ability, as you said,

Jeff Battersby (39m 6s)

highlight and, or take control, which presently, um, and I, they didn't say anything about this in iOS, but I would presume it.

Jeff Battersby (39m 13s)

I presume it would be there too. Um, right now it's one way screen-sharing.

Jeff Battersby (39m 18s)

You can see what people are doing.

Jeff Battersby (39m 20s)

You still have to walk them through it without being able to control it.

Jeff Battersby (39m 23s)

You can't control those remote devices,

Tom Anderson (39m 26s)

Okay, so next on to new Mac OS, which they have dubbed.

Jeff Battersby (39m 26s)

but that's new here and I like it.

macOS Sequoia

Jeff Battersby (39m 34s)

So cool. Yeah, I do too.

Tom Anderson (39m 36s)

Yeah, I like that, it's nice, good name.

Tom Anderson (39m 40s)

So, they're going to bring along a bunch of those iOS and iPad OS features for Maps, Messages,

Tom Anderson (39m 47s)

and so forth into it, so text effects, stuff like that.

Jeff Battersby (39m 48s)

Yep.

Tom Anderson (39m 51s)

We're coming in scenes in freeform collections and photos and send later

Jeff Battersby (39m 52s)

Yeah, all that across all--

Tom Anderson (39m 56s)

all those good things math notes you can actually type them in and they'll do it so that'll work with typed text as well they announced iPhone mirroring which looks really slick

Jeff Battersby (40m 10s)

Amazing. So what does that mean, Tom? What does iPhone?

Tom Anderson (40m 13s)

so iPhone mirroring is going to be built on their continuity frameworks that they've had for several years now and so what you can do is when you bring your

Tom Anderson (40m 26s)

to your Mac you can show your iPhone's display on your Mac and you say why would you ever want to do that and it's a fair question one use case comes to mind heavily is for people that do training videos YouTube videos those kinds of things right because bring the iPhone up but it's not just a mirror it's actually you can use it so like when you have it up there you can swipe through your different homepages, home screens, you can open apps.

Tom Anderson (40m 56s)

The iPhone stays locked when you're in a mirroring session so there's a little bit of privacy there. Audio, if you're playing something, will play through the Mac which is pretty nice. And again, going back to that continuity side of things,

Tom Anderson (41m 11s)

you can drag content from your Mac into an app you're running on the phone, which is pretty slick. Yeah, I mean that that looks really cool. I try to think, is it

Tom Anderson (41m 26s)

something I'd use a lot? I don't know, maybe.

Jeff Battersby (41m 30s)

I can say that there are many cases where I keep my phone, I would prefer to keep my phone

Jeff Battersby (41m 38s)

sitting on my charger on my desk and, you know, if I'm sitting out in the backyard doing something,

Jeff Battersby (41m 44s)

but I would like to have access to some things on my phone, that would be that.

Tom Anderson (41m 48s)

Mm-hmm. I wonder what the range of that will be, like, if that.

Jeff Battersby (41m 50s)

I think it's Wi-Fi. Like, continuity is presently, don't you think?

Tom Anderson (41m 56s)

Could be. I'm trying to think.

Tom Anderson (42m)

Like, it seems like some of it is, but some of it has to be closer, I think.

Tom Anderson (42m 4s)

I don't know. We'll have to look at it and we'll come back to that.

Jeff Battersby (42m 5s)

I guess we'll just have to play with it when it comes out.

Tom Anderson (42m 6s)

Yeah, I don't know. We'll just have to play with it, see what happens.

Tom Anderson (42m 10s)

You can't get iOS notifications on your Mac, too.

Tom Anderson (42m 13s)

In case you don't get enough notifications on your Mac from macOS,

Jeff Battersby (42m 14s)

Yeah, which will be.

Tom Anderson (42m 16s)

so you can get iOS notifications.

Jeff Battersby (42m 17s)

I mean the things I have turned off.

Tom Anderson (42m 18s)

But if you've got that screen, that iPhone mirroring thing on,

Tom Anderson (42m 21s)

and you get a notification, or even if you don't have it on,

Tom Anderson (42m 24s)

if you hit the iPhone notification, it'll do that.

Tom Anderson (42m 28s)

iPhone mirroring.

Tom Anderson (42m 29s)

It'll just kind of bring it up there on the Mac.

Tom Anderson (42m 31s)

Um, so you can tend to whatever you need to tend to.

Tom Anderson (42m 34s)

So I thought that was pretty good.

Tom Anderson (42m 36s)

Um, back in our highlight show, a couple of weeks ago, Riley.

Tom Anderson (42m 41s)

Asked for some better window management and he got it.

Jeff Battersby (42m 43s)

Uh-huh. Look at that, Riley.

Tom Anderson (42m 45s)

Yeah, got kind of the snap and.

Tom Anderson (42m 48s)

You can just drag a window to a certain location.

Tom Anderson (42m 51s)

It'll drop into place there.

Tom Anderson (42m 52s)

Does have keyboard support for that, which is nice.

Tom Anderson (42m 55s)

So it's, you know, we'll see how flexible it is, right?

Tom Anderson (42m 58s)

They showed it top, bottom, left, right, and then quarters,

Tom Anderson (43m 2s)

you know, kind of each upper right, upper left, so forth.

Jeff Battersby (43m 3s)

Yes, and there was some intelligence built into that as well.

Jeff Battersby (43m 9s)

So it would recommend or suggest that.

Jeff Battersby (43m 12s)

So that's a nice feature.

Jeff Battersby (43m 14s)

I'm going to do a little dance.

Jeff Battersby (43m 17s)

Hold on a second. Okay, I'm done.

Jeff Battersby (43m 20s)

We have now got a standalone passwords app,

Jeff Battersby (43m 25s)

and man, am I happy about that.

Jeff Battersby (43m 29s)

That's such a nice feature.

Jeff Battersby (43m 33s)

I've been using Apple's built-in keychain passwords tool for a while now.

Jeff Battersby (43m 41s)

I dropped one password other than keeping a local copy for some things that I haven't taken the time to transfer over for quite some time.

Jeff Battersby (43m 50s)

Now that it is in a standalone application,

Jeff Battersby (43m 53s)

I feel much more comfortable recommending it to people to use.

Jeff Battersby (43m 59s)

I mean, I have always recommended that they, you know, use the password.

Jeff Battersby (44m 3s)

But trying to find some old one was always a pain in the neck because you had to go into system settings and you had to find passwords and you had to open it up.

Tom Anderson (44m 10s)

Mm-hmm

Jeff Battersby (44m 12s)

This is what's it?

Tom Anderson (44m 14s)

That's why I didn't move over yeah, I didn't want that's why I didn't move from from one password Yeah, but now with this I'm planning to move like so

Jeff Battersby (44m 15s)

Because you didn't want to hassle with that.

Jeff Battersby (44m 17s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (44m 19s)

Yeah, no, it makes it makes sense.

Jeff Battersby (44m 21s)

And I know there was a question that we had about whether or not maybe it wasn't actually somebody asked Riley on on threats about this.

Jeff Battersby (44m 29s)

threats about this, whether or not it would import.

Jeff Battersby (44m 33s)

Any passwords from those other systems, you know, like such as one password or last pass, no indication of that. It would be a nice feature if that happened.

Jeff Battersby (44m 44s)

I'm not counting on it, but that would be great. But I'm really, really happy for a passwords app and anybody I know pushing that direction, Apple's done a brilliant, brilliant job of that in the last couple of years.

Jeff Battersby (44m 59s)

You know, back in the old days, the keychain was the bane of everything.

Jeff Battersby (45m 4s)

It was an absolute pain in the neck.

Jeff Battersby (45m 8s)

Apple has made it so nobody even knows what a keychain is anymore.

Tom Anderson (45m 12s)

Yep, and that's a good thing. It's got shared passwords. So that was a big one too because we do have some that we share with the

Jeff Battersby (45m 13s)

Yeah, it is, really.

Tom Anderson (45m 18s)

One password family plan and stuff

Tom Anderson (45m 21s)

Passkey support

Jeff Battersby (45m 21s)

which you already have the ability to share passwords in in the existing system in apple passwords already you can do that so you can share a subset of passwords to people that are in your family ask me if i've used it I just know it's there yeah

Tom Anderson (45m 29s)

Was it, you would invite somebody to it or how would you share it?

Tom Anderson (45m 36s)

But like, would it just send it to them and then it shows up in their key chain or.

Tom Anderson (45m 41s)

Okay, great.

Tom Anderson (45m 42s)

All right.

Tom Anderson (45m 43s)

Okay.

Tom Anderson (45m 45s)

Well, cause I kind of see shared passwords in this kind of like being shared notes.

Tom Anderson (45m 48s)

Right.

Tom Anderson (45m 48s)

And you just add them to a shared section and everybody's got it and it's nice and easy.

Tom Anderson (45m 52s)

So, uh, yeah, so that all looks good.

Tom Anderson (45m 54s)

I'm, I do plan to move to that.

Tom Anderson (45m 56s)

A couple little things and again...

Tom Anderson (45m 59s)

They didn't call this AI but that's exactly what it is. Reader mode in Safari adds a summary and then they've got some video player enhancements, some gaming stuff. You know, they keep pushing this. They keep trying to push it forward. The game porting toolkit goes up to version 2. I'm looking to bring some more games to the Mac and they were saying with this you could bring the advanced games to Mac, iPhone, and iPad, which is interesting. So we'll see how that goes. I'm not a gamer so I'm not really qualified to comment on any of

Tom Anderson (46m 29s)

people still kind of scoff and say you know PC is really the gaming platform and I think that's true but Apple hasn't given up on it and they keep pushing it and it feels like at some point you think that would tip and they would become more of a gaming platform but we'll see. So all of that stuff we've just talked about. Public beta is coming up next month. Developers got their hands on it today. If you have a developer account or are so inclined you could sign up for a developer account and you can have access to it.

Tom Anderson (46m 59s)

And I'll see you in the next video.

Jeff Battersby (47m 2s)

Yes. Yep. And just a general reminder, you probably, if you're going to do a beta, wait until version 4, 5, somewhere in there, unless you have a phone that you can just goof around with.

Tom Anderson (47m 11s)

Yeah, yeah, wait to the public betas at least.

Jeff Battersby (47m 18s)

Which I don't.

Tom Anderson (47m 18s)

Okay, so we are 47 minutes in.

Jeff Battersby (47m 21s)

Yes, we are.

Tom Anderson (47m 22s)

Yes, we are. So let's keep moving.

Jeff Battersby (47m 24s)

Yep. We'll see if we can knock this out before an hour.

Jeff Battersby (47m 26s)

Sorry, folks.

Tom Anderson (47m 27s)

Yeah, and we're going to be talking about all of this stuff more over the summer.

Tom Anderson (47m 30s)

This is just a recap real quick of what went on today so you can avoid looking up all that stuff yourself.

Tom Anderson (47m 36s)

Because I had somebody text me today, "Hey, are you guys doing a recap show?"

Tom Anderson (47m 38s)

I was like, "We are." She goes, "All right, good. I won't look at anything. I'll just wait for that."

Jeff Battersby (47m 39s)

Yep.

Jeff Battersby (47m 41s)

See.

Tom Anderson (47m 42s)

That's what we're here for. The big marquee announcement today. Everyone had been waiting to see what Apple was going to do with AI, I guess. Now we have it. AI is Apple Intelligence.

Jeff Battersby (47m 54s)

Drum roll. Yes, it is.

Apple Intelligence

Tom Anderson (47m 58s)

Yes, it is. Mark Gurman broke that the other day. He is the king of leaks and all of this information. Jeff and I were commenting before we started. It's like he's sitting at the marketing

Tom Anderson (48m 12s)

and he just brings that stuff right out to his Bloomberg newsletter, Power On. If you're not subscribed to that newsletter, you should sign up to that one, too. Real quick, before we get into the meat of it, the list of compatible devices is as such. If you're on a Mac, anything with M1 or later. If you're on iPad Air or iPad Pro, anything with M1 or later. If you're on an iPhone iPhone 15

Jeff Battersby (48m 17s)

The only thing Bloomberg gets right.

Tom Anderson (48m 41s)

pro or 15 pro max and that's it for iPhones so I'll be upgrading in the fall so I'm not too concerned about that on my usual every two year cadence so that'll work out okay so when Tim Cook came on you know after they did all the OS stuff they let's kick it back to Tim and he comes back and he starts talking about this you know he said when they were looking at this that their kind of

Jeff Battersby (48m 43s)

Correct.

Jeff Battersby (48m 44s)

Yes.

Tom Anderson (49m 11s)

was that it would have to be powerful intuitive integrated personal and private and I think those last two three probably integrated personal and private really kind of separated from the other stuff and we'll get into that like chat GPT and Gemini and all that stuff all of this stuff is as we know now is for Mac MacOS, iOS, and iPadOS, no mention of Vision OS.

Tom Anderson (49m 41s)

or watchOS. So, you have been not the biggest proponent of AI.

Jeff Battersby (49m 50s)

So, I have been playing around with it more for some things

Jeff Battersby (49m 56s)

just because I feel like I need to know what I'm looking at, talking about, being with.

Jeff Battersby (50m 1s)

But as you well know, I don't like the fact

Jeff Battersby (50m 6s)

that most of this stuff is something that if I said badly, you'd have to say Gesundheit, BS.

Jeff Battersby (50m 14s)

And when I say BS, I feel like AI for the most part

Jeff Battersby (50m 20s)

and using that data and putting it in places that the people who created it don't get any credit for.

Jeff Battersby (50m 30s)

What I feel like with what we saw today with Apple Intelligence, and I've kind of made mention of this as we've gone through the various changes to iOS.

Jeff Battersby (50m 42s)

There are actually things that are useful that are built into what it is that you're currently doing and taking information that you currently have.

Jeff Battersby (50m 50s)

That you've developed.

Jeff Battersby (50m 52s)

So, it's taking the things that you're working with,

Jeff Battersby (50m 55s)

whether it be your photographs or it's looking at texts

Jeff Battersby (51m)

that you've written and finding different ways to enhance that.

Jeff Battersby (51m 4s)

I trust Apple, whether I should or not,

Jeff Battersby (51m 6s)

to keep my data mine, they're not selling it.

Jeff Battersby (51m 9s)

In fact, one of the things that was mentioned was the fact that there is gonna be a link to chat GPT if you need that, and you can...

Jeff Battersby (51m 20s)

go out, whether it's a free plan or paid plan and link to that, but none...

Jeff Battersby (51m 26s)

And I don't know how they do this.

Jeff Battersby (51m 28s)

None of your data, you know, none of the information that you're sending out to get that information back from ChatGPT, none of that data gets to stay with ChatGPT.

Jeff Battersby (51m 43s)

It's all local to you.

Jeff Battersby (51m 46s)

I love that it's all on-device processing.

Jeff Battersby (51m 49s)

that maybe explains why.

Jeff Battersby (51m 50s)

The current iPhones, the iPhone 15, 15 Pro, sorry, the 15 Pro,

Jeff Battersby (51m 55s)

15 Pro Max, sorry, not 15.

Jeff Battersby (51m 58s)

Um, it, it has, it must have the architecture built into it.

Jeff Battersby (52m 2s)

That's allowed, that allows for that kind of high level, large language model computing.

Tom Anderson (52m 8s)

Yeah, and I think this is where Apple being stingy on RAM on the iPhones is kind of catching some people in a pinch because I think the 15 Pro and Pro Max have eight gigs or more.

Tom Anderson (52m 20s)

I think it's at least eight and I can't remember if Pro Max has more or not.

Tom Anderson (52m 23s)

I think that's the iPad Pros that have more depending on which model you get.

Tom Anderson (52m 28s)

And so I think that's why it's so restricted and people have complained about their stinginess with the RAM on the iPhones for a while.

Jeff Battersby (52m 36s)

on everything. I mean, that's, that's been forever.

Tom Anderson (52m 36s)

Yeah, pretty much.

Tom Anderson (52m 38s)

And we mentioned that the other day,

Tom Anderson (52m 40s)

when we started this conversation,

Tom Anderson (52m 41s)

like eight gigs of RAM is gonna be enough for your back boat.

Tom Anderson (52m 45s)

And it's like, well, yeah, I guess.

Jeff Battersby (52m 46s)

Depends on what you're doing.

Tom Anderson (52m 47s)

But I think with this stuff, more is better.

Tom Anderson (52m 51s)

So they talked about kind of the capabilities, right?

Tom Anderson (52m 57s)

So it's language, images, action,

Tom Anderson (52m 59s)

and then one they've mentioned very frequently,

Tom Anderson (53m 1s)

which is personal context,

Jeff Battersby (53m 3s)

Mm-hm.

Tom Anderson (53m 3s)

which is really kind of like the special sauce, I think,

Tom Anderson (53m 8s)

some of that stuff.

Tom Anderson (53m 9s)

And we're gonna just walk through the kind of the things they talked about real quick.

Tom Anderson (53m 12s)

And like I said, all of this needs way more looking into and everything like that.

Tom Anderson (53m 17s)

But one of the first things they dug into was Siri.

Jeff Battersby (53m 21s)

Yes, an updated version of Siri, but, well, we'll see.

Tom Anderson (53m 23s)

Siri may not be stupid much longer.

Tom Anderson (53m 26s)

Yeah, dude, man, they got a lot at stake with that.

Tom Anderson (53m 30s)

'Cause it's like, man, Siri is bad now.

Tom Anderson (53m 32s)

And if this works, it's great.

Tom Anderson (53m 36s)

If it doesn't, man, then it's...

Jeff Battersby (53m 39s)

Nope, I agree.

Jeff Battersby (53m 40s)

So in speaking of good looks, Siri has a new look,

Jeff Battersby (53m 43s)

which I like a lot rather than the little disc that appears currently at the bottom of your screen when you invoke Siri.

Jeff Battersby (53m 50s)

What you're gonna get is around the border,

Jeff Battersby (53m 54s)

the same kind of little rainbowy cloud,

Jeff Battersby (53m 56s)

but it'll light up when you're speaking to it.

Jeff Battersby (54m)

So when you say Siri or, "Hey Siri,"

Jeff Battersby (54m 1s)

and then do such and such,

Jeff Battersby (54m 6s)

It will let you know by basically

Jeff Battersby (54m 9s)

lighting up the borders of your screen.

Jeff Battersby (54m 11s)

So you'll see that Siri is waiting for input in that way.

Jeff Battersby (54m 15s)

It's supposed to be more natural language,

Jeff Battersby (54m 18s)

so you don't have to speak in some robo-speak that makes it so Siri works better.

Jeff Battersby (54m 25s)

One of the things that I loved,

Jeff Battersby (54m 27s)

and I hope it really works,

Jeff Battersby (54m 29s)

is maintains conversational context.

Jeff Battersby (54m 33s)

Siri, for a long time, has been incapable,

Jeff Battersby (54m 37s)

still presently is incapable.

Jeff Battersby (54m 39s)

of having you give two instructions, one followed by another. You had to reformat your question in such a way that it could do two things at once. Now you can ask it a question and it will hold that context and you can ask a related question, like start with, how do I get directions to Tom's house? And you get those directions and what time do I need to leave to get there by 5 p.m.

Jeff Battersby (55m 10s)

It could be a follow-up question, and you will get information based on that initial question,

Jeff Battersby (55m 16s)

so it holds on to that, which is brilliant. That's a feature that's long been needed.

Jeff Battersby (55m 21s)

A couple of other things. Type to Siri kind of has been the case anyway. You could have "I don't"

Jeff Battersby (55m 27s)

on my Macs, but you can have a Siri icon up on your computer, you know, up on your menu bar that you click and you can type a question to it'll work that sometimes is.

Jeff Battersby (55m 40s)

Okay. One of the nice things is it has an extensive amount of product knowledge

Jeff Battersby (55m 46s)

and a knowledge base information.

Jeff Battersby (55m 49s)

So things that you typically would go to Google or DuckDuckGo or one of those places for like, how do I use the stopwatch on my,

Jeff Battersby (56m)

on my phone? You can ask Siri that,

Jeff Battersby (56m 3s)

and it will bring you the step by step information on how to do that.

Jeff Battersby (56m 6s)

So some nice features in information that's built off of Apple's already extensive base of information.

Tom Anderson (56m 14s)

Yeah. And some of that they showed, I commented to you, it'd be nice if it just said,

Tom Anderson (56m 19s)

would you like me to do that for you? And it's like, and maybe it will. And this is all early.

Tom Anderson (56m 26s)

They're leaning into app intents to kind of extend the functionality across the applications.

Tom Anderson (56m 31s)

Third-party app support will be there for that as well. Personal context, again, they mentioned throughout the presentation on this.

Tom Anderson (56m 45s)

It's where they can find something without knowing where it is,

Tom Anderson (56m 47s)

or you can find something without knowing where it is.

Tom Anderson (56m 49s)

So like show me that picture Jeff sent me Tuesday or last week or something like that.

Tom Anderson (56m 55s)

And it will be able to dig into that and hopefully surface it may surface a couple, I don't know.

Tom Anderson (57m 2s)

And something interesting they showed was being able to pull data from an image and add it to a form.

Tom Anderson (57m 7s)

I think they did, it was like an ID photo or something like that.

Jeff Battersby (57m 9s)

Mm-hmm, driver's license.

Tom Anderson (57m 10s)

And it was able to pull an ID number and drop it right into the form.

Tom Anderson (57m 14s)

Pretty cool, so we'll see.

Tom Anderson (57m 18s)

Then they went into the writing tools for this.

Tom Anderson (57m 21s)

And a lot of this is familiar if you've used Crammerly or ChatGPT,

Tom Anderson (57m 26s)

either their AI stuff, a lot of applications of course have plugged ChatGPT into their applications.

Tom Anderson (57m 34s)

So it can draft replies, it can do summaries,

Tom Anderson (57m 38s)

but what I really liked about the whole thing that they got in once they got into this that it's going to be system Y.

Tom Anderson (57m 44s)

And third party apps can take advantage of it because up to this point, it was up to the application developers.

Tom Anderson (57m 50s)

So Kraft could add their own, you know, Agenda could add their own, Grammarly has got their thing going on, so forth and so on.

Tom Anderson (57m 58s)

But it'll be nice that that will be there.

Tom Anderson (58m)

It'll be up to the applications to decide if they want to do that or not.

Tom Anderson (58m 2s)

Some of them use those AI features as a way to squeeze another couple bucks out of their subscribers a month, which I get it, people want to pay for it, why not?

Tom Anderson (58m 12s)

With the smart reply.

Tom Anderson (58m 15s)

In mail looks pretty good where it's able to look at the email and the example they used as somebody invited you to dinner and then you reply. It's like will your partner be joining? Yes. Will you be driving or taking an uber and you choose it and it just kind of creates the message and puts it in so nice. I like that. What else do they have?

Jeff Battersby (58m 33s)

Some of the other features that are tied into this new focus mode that it reduces the number of interruptions that you're getting but can surface as you said interruptions that may be important like you know you're getting a call from mom or your spouse or your significant other you know when you don't want to be bothered by anybody else that one can pop up.

Jeff Battersby (58m 59s)

So there's going to be some intelligence built into that.

Jeff Battersby (59m 3s)

There is a new feature that may be kind of fun. How much I'll use it.

Jeff Battersby (59m 8s)

I don't know,

Jeff Battersby (59m 8s)

but there's something Apple's calling an image playground where you can feed

Jeff Battersby (59m 17s)

Apple intelligence, a certain ideas. You know,

Jeff Battersby (59m 20s)

I want a cat standing on a pyramid with laser eyes or something like that.

Jeff Battersby (59m 26s)

And it will create a multitude of images, a multiple, I should say,

Jeff Battersby (59m 30s)

down a multitude that you can then select from.

Jeff Battersby (59m 33s)

So you can add your own categories, use personal information, you can add these or use these in messages, keynote pages, the free format, and there will also be, just so you can learn how to use it, a dedicated image playground app that lets you create those.

Jeff Battersby (59m 48s)

And we're not talking, you know, stupid looking graphics from what we saw in the demo.

Jeff Battersby (59m 53s)

Pretty, pretty high quality.

Jeff Battersby (59m 56s)

Again, Benjamin Young-Savage, don't yell at us, but you know me.

Jeff Battersby (1h 3s)

It may make it so it's, you know, puts some graphic designers out of business because people will be able to do that on their own.

Jeff Battersby (1h 12s)

So that's where my ambivalence still lives with these kinds of things.

Tom Anderson (1h 19s)

Yep. Let's see. Genmoji, generative emoji, right?

Jeff Battersby (1h 24s)

Genmoji.

Jeff Battersby (1h 26s)

Mm-hm.

Tom Anderson (1h 26s)

So if you want to do a custom emoji, you can make that using prompts and it'll make it to your heart's content.

Tom Anderson (1h 31s)

So have at it. We cannot get enough emojis. We've got Memojis, Emojis, and Genmojis.

Jeff Battersby (1h 38s)

Yep. In the notes app, record and transcribe audio, plus some summaries and that's also coming to iPhone. That's a nice feature. In fact, I wouldn't have to take any notes today if I

Tom Anderson (1h 38s)

Pick one.

Jeff Battersby (1h 49s)

opened up notes and let the keynote feed into it. Some other, and I think we mentioned this a little earlier, in the photos app there's going to be a cleanup tool, some natural language search for that, video search for specific scenes in videos, and then you can create a memory.

Tom Anderson (1h 52s)

Mm-hmm.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 9s)

Yeah, and some of the demo stuff they did around photos was very similar to what Google showed

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 17s)

at their conference there with AI stuff last month.

Jeff Battersby (1h 1m 21s)

Yeah, it.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 23s)

So yeah, all that looks good.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 25s)

I'd like the ability to make your own memory movies with prompts is nice.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 32s)

That'll be, I don't know, I think the memories are one of the best things in photos anyway.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 36s)

I'd look at those a lot as they come up.

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 39s)

I'm not gonna do it on the home screen,

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 40s)

but the, let's see, what else do we wanna touch on there?

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 45s)

touch on there.

Jeff Battersby (1h 1m 46s)

I think the important thing also is that it Apple intelligence is free. So it doesn't cost anything. No extra no add-ons. No, you know

Tom Anderson (1h 1m 54s)

for now. Apple Intelligence Plus coming next year, WWDC. Get that Apple One bundle up over $40.

Jeff Battersby (1h 1m 54s)

free for now

Jeff Battersby (1h 2m 2s)

It's already at $40 what you talking about? Okay, whatever round up

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 5s)

Well, $38, but yeah. Somebody didn't touch on email summaries,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 11s)

elevating priority messages will be there too. I've been using that in Google because we use Google at the office and we've enabled some of the new Gemini stuff that's come out.

Jeff Battersby (1h 2m 19s)

Mm-hmm

Jeff Battersby (1h 2m 22s)

Yes

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 22s)

And it's actually--

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 24s)

pretty good, like I had an email thread,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 27s)

we were working with a Navy vendor on something,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 29s)

and I don't know, there's probably 30 messages in there,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 31s)

so I had to show me the summary,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 32s)

except it was just a test 'cause I knew what was in the messages.

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 35s)

Sorry, you know, thread's been going on for days.

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 38s)

And it did a really nice job, like I was surprised,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 43s)

honestly, but it hit all the key points,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 46s)

didn't really leave out anything,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 48s)

got the names right, who was doing what, what was said,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 51s)

so that was impressive,

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 52s)

I suspect the Apple one will.

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 54s)

Won't be very similar to that, so that was good.

Tom Anderson (1h 2m 57s)

Now they have added to extend Siri functionality, um, the ability to use chat GPT.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 9s)

That's the only one so far.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 10s)

They say more coming, probably Gemini would be the next one.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 14s)

I would guess.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 15s)

Um, what I like, what they've done with that is they do prompt you.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 20s)

So if you ask something and it, you know, Siri doesn't really.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 24s)

No, I think they use like a recipe or something like that.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 27s)

Um, what they did, they were like, would you like to use chat GPT?

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 29s)

So it's kind of an opt in on each one of those prompts or

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 33s)

questions that you ask Siri.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 35s)

Um, I did like that it was opt in.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 39s)

Um, and honestly, I kind of like that it's there because it does extend that, the functionality.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 45s)

Um, and you can do it for free without creating an account with chat GPT.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 49s)

if you have a paid chat GPT account, which I do.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 54s)

I'm not sure for how much longer, but I do.

Tom Anderson (1h 3m 56s)

You can't connect that if you want to do that as well.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m)

And I'm not sure, I can't remember what they said and would have to look.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 4s)

I don't know, like, if you connect your account,

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 7s)

if those queries that you're running through Siri,

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 10s)

through chat GPT actually show up in like your chat history.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 15s)

Like if you go to log in at the chat GPT website,

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 18s)

I don't know if those would show up there or not,

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 21s)

But it could be.

Jeff Battersby (1h 4m 22s)

Yeah, according to what I understood, and I don't know what, again, whether with a paid account,

Jeff Battersby (1h 4m 27s)

that would be the case, but it didn't sound like that information was going across,

Jeff Battersby (1h 4m 32s)

but that might be something you'd like.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 36s)

Right. Yeah, because you can go to chat GPT now and use for free without even having an account

Jeff Battersby (1h 4m 41s)

Right.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 41s)

Which is probably what they're tying into right?

Jeff Battersby (1h 4m 42s)

What they're doing.

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 45s)

Something they talked about with all of this is this concept of the private cloud compute

Tom Anderson (1h 4m 53s)

Which was interesting so this is something that they are building themselves with Apple Silicon and

Tom Anderson (1h 5m 2s)

Using a lot of the same things that they use with iPhones so secure enclave secure Butte. It's getting late. I'm an old, I gotta go to bed. And so that they published an article on their security research site that I just saw right before we went on. Go take a look at that. That looks it's interesting. They talk about a little bit. I'm sure there's going to be a ton more that they they publish and talk about in the developer sessions and everything. But so they're going to set this up and they wanted to set it up in a way

Jeff Battersby (1h 5m 8s)

Heh heh, who was drinking?

Tom Anderson (1h 5m 36s)

that when you do your Apple intelligence things, where it has to go off device to the private cloud compute that they've got set up. They don't want to retain any of it. Like no trace of it. Like they don't want it to show up in logging no place at all. And they're going to have it open for third parties to check it and make sure that you know what they say they do, they're actually doing so commend them for that. So who

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 2s)

Yeah

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 5s)

Remains one of my favorite Apple things is that they do, you know, I think they slip up from time to time but

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 13s)

they do Still take our privacy and our personal information

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 19s)

To be our own not theirs to glean from so

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 24s)

I'm grateful for that

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 27s)

All right, hour six, done.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 29s)

Yeah.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 30s)

Cool.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 31s)

Not our number six.

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 32s)

No.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 32s)

Thank God.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 35s)

Just a reminder that, uh, no, no, dude, um, um, yeah, no, I think we've more, more than more than, more than worn out our welcome here then.

Close

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 36s)

I mean, we can keep going if you want.

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 37s)

I mean, you want to go a couple more hours.

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 39s)

I mean, I'm in for it.

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 42s)

CPT is hitting in.

Tom Anderson (1h 6m 44s)

You're like, I gotta go.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 49s)

And we promise we'll get back to like a 30, 35 minute episode length after this.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 55s)

We swear.

Jeff Battersby (1h 6m 56s)

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Jeff Battersby (1h 7m 25s)

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Tom Anderson (1h 7m 29s)

let's get out of here don't forget all of these topics we'll be digging into more over the summer with the betas and then in particular once we get to the fall we actually get like the released versions all the apple intelligence stuff is coming out this fall in beta mode so it's going to be a little iffy for a while but anyway that's enough for now thank you so much for being here we do appreciate it and until next time have a great rest of your day rest of your night

Outro Music (1h 7m 48s)

I don't wanna know about your imperfections, dude Prefer to leave you on a pedestal so I'll improve 'Cause if I'm finding out you know more then I'm just like you That gon' smash my whole world Lost in illusion, drowning myself up in the sauce Put my glasses on backward and rewind my

Jeff Battersby (1h 7m 50s)

See ya!