What We Think We Like in the New Apple Operating Systems

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This sounds so lame, but it's not lame.

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This is Basic AF.

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I'm your cohost, tom Anderson, and I am joined by the one and only, and also fresh from the Jersey Shore, looking like a bronze to Donis, jeff Batters.

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Bjb.

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How you doing, brother?

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Terrific.

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How are you, man, doing?

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OK, i've had another respiratory thing this week, so I do sound a little deeper than usual, i think, but not as bad as the other day.

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It's the sexy Tom show.

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Oh God, Go ahead and turn it off now.

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So I do have cough drops at the ready and the cough button Water.

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If needed water all that usual stuff too.

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now We're almost 900.

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if we don't screw this show up too badly, we should hit it this month.

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If we turn off a bunch of folks, we might never hit it, so we'll see, or we might get a bunch of people pissed off listening.

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What better guys to do that with We?

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also, you put us up on YouTube now, so you can pick us up on YouTube.

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That's a new place, although if you're listening to us here, you're already listening to us.

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Yeah, i was surprised like I saw like 30% of people listen to, like to listen to their that, listen to podcasts, like to do it on.

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YouTube.

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It's really interesting It is, and you know I've then more thought about it.

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I was like, well, that's not totally surprising because you know I've started listening to like some music playlists on YouTube while I'm at work And you know they're just rolling in the background.

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And so I think the same thing would apply with the podcast.

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So, we are there if you want to check us out.

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Basic AF show on YouTube itself.

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We're also.

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It's in YouTube music, so you can find it there too.

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Well, we're singing that.

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Well, we can go that far.

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So this week and we'll only talk about this quickly because we've got a lot of other stuff to get to the social media Clone Wars continue.

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So obviously everybody knows about the drama that's been around Twitter of late with Elon taking over.

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Can't wait to see that.

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Yeah, the cage match should be interesting And I mean, there's always been drama around Twitter, but this is, you know, with with the owner.

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The new owner, yeah, the recent owner, and some of the things going on there, and so meta has had one of these in the works and this week opened up their threads app, or threads social media service.

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I should say the threads app is what you use to do it.

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Right now, you can only use a mobile app.

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There's no web service or anything just yet.

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I suspect that's coming And that has taken off pretty quickly.

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I mean I saw they're up to 75 million users.

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Yeah, already is probably more than that.

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That was as of I think maybe yesterday or Friday.

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As we record this, this is Sunday, so it's taken off.

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Jeff, i know you and I talked about this while you were on vacation a bit.

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Yeah, hanging out with Sookie.

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Yeah, hanging out with the Zocker.

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Have you spent much time with it yet?

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You know instant regret.

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I did.

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I did sign up.

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You talked me into a time, as you often do.

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I'm wearing an Apple watch and now I'm on freaking threads By the way, same name at Reyes Point, which is what I'm also on Instagram which, by the way, i think is why they got so many users so quickly is real easy onboarding If you already had an Instagram account, so you got threads.

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All the people that you followed on Instagram Immediately you were following on threads.

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One downside to that, by the way, is you want to get rid of threads.

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You need to get rid of your Instagram account.

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Yeah, and I saw that they're going to work on that, so you can do one without the other.

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Yeah, sure, but yeah, i'm on and, to be quite clear, not really on, as I'm not on Facebook.

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I'm not on Instagram, really.

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I do have a user account on Instagram that I haven't posted anything to in a good long time.

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I do not like the Facebook paradigm, so I have largely avoided that.

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You're going to cough.

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I'm going to burp all the way through this, by the way.

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Sweet.

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Yeah well that would be fart too.

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Oh, dude Yeah.

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Anyway, i don't know.

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It's one more thing.

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You know is really what it is.

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It is one more thing, and I'm kind of enjoying the Musk tailspin over on Twitter.

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That's been fun to watch.

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By the way, if anybody hasn't noticed, mr Musk, via Twitter, is suing the law firm that allowed Musk to buy.

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Yeah, that's a little circular logic.

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It's a mobius strip of genius.

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That's what that guy is.

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He's a mobius strip of genius, anyway, yeah, so that's that's about it.

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I don't know, man, i'm finding myself now on Twitter watching no context, humans most of the time, which is actually pretty fun, we'll follow if you're interested.

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Yeah, and I think part of the reason that it's had it's gotten so much we'll say hype this week is that you know people have been looking for an alternative And I think you know, i know a big part of the Apple Twitter community jumped over to Mastodon.

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But let's be honest, that's not for the mass market.

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You know, i'd been on Mastodon for a few years before you know it became the somewhat thing to do for certain groups And I get it.

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I mean, you want to go somewhere and if enough of your friends go that you're already talking to, then you kind of can keep things going, but it's not a mass market thing.

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Totally not, and you know, in time we'll tell how this one plays out.

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And you know everyone's it's new shiny people were feeling good about it.

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You know it was.

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I admit it was kind of fun.

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It was the first week to see the enthusiasm around it.

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But that's all going to change because you know they don't have suggested for you or recommended for you or ads populating in your timeline yet And we know all that's coming.

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Right, and that's what ruined Instagram for a lot of people is you follow, you know certain people and you don't see them for months Because of the algorithm stuff, and so we know that's going to come and screw it all up, and so I would just encourage people who are on there and super hype about it to kind of you know temper that for a big letdown, I think, But for now you know I am there if you want to give a follow there.

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Tom Anderson is the username there.

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It's just slightly different than on Twitter, which was Tom, or is still Tom F Anderson over there.

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And I think that's just about having Tom Anderson is still.

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every year or two I get someone tagging me in something on Instagram because that's my username there, Thinking that I'm the Tom Anderson from Myspace Yeah, well, that's you man.

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I wish I had his money, but I'm not Yeah, yeah, so Doing your music on Myspace.

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No.

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No.

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I think that I think the big thing, the big difference, That experience for me was very organic and I will say that I still have a very well curated follow list on on Twitter, which on Instagram I don't, because I don't really use Instagram And I I don't know it.

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That was a very organic experience for me.

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I started very early.

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Twitter started, you know, many years ago, before it even worked, you know, back in the fail well days which we're seeing more and more of these days Was that 2008 give or take.

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Yeah, it had to be somewhere around there.

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I was on pretty early, i could go look and see.

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Yeah, you know, i hopped on Twitter and really enjoyed it because I was able to see things that I wanted to see on Twitter.

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I don't know if that Instagram is going to be that for me.

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I mean, i'm seeing sorry Instagram.

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Well, basically is Instagram.

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Let me just say that if you look at what your feed looks like on threads, what you will notice or at least I have is I'm seeing all the same videos from people that I would see on on Instagram.

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You know, the same pictures, the same videos, the same.

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Hey, this is me not seeing much differentiation, at least in my timeline, between the two.

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Your experience may be different time, because you do do a fair amount of Insta, particularly with your other venture, subi and Ventures.

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Right, i recommend that follow, by the way.

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No thanks, yeah, you're welcome.

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No lies, i'll send you a sticker.

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You already sent me a t-shirt, tom, and a sticker.

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I was going to send you a basic AF sticker.

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Oh, I don't have one of those.

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Oh wait, I have a stack on my desk.

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You can have one more.

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Anyway, for me I don't know if I'm I'm trying to think of the last time I picked it up in the last four or five days, and it was maybe midweek.

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I think I signed on Tuesday or whatever day What day was it?

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What would they think it was last?

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week I think it was Wednesday or Thursday that came out, I can't remember which day it was, to be honest.

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So, yeah, and I think, at least for right now, I think, oddly enough, that Threads is a better photo sharing platform than Instagram is Because Instagram has become so focused on being a TikTok clone that they're pushing reels so hard and video in general, which you know let's be truthful here That's what most people want that photos don't get the visibility that they used to get, And I think, at least for now, photos and I think the formatting for the photos works a little bit better.

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On Threads too, Like you can do some widescreen, There's not so much cropping and the quality looks to be a little bit better than you get with the Instagram posts.

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But again, this thing is going to be very dynamic and it's going to be changing And you know there are features that aren't there yet.

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Like you don't have a way to show just the feed of your followers.

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It's kind of the 4U page for Twitter, if you will, where you get a whole bunch of stuff.

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You kind of get that So, like I've seen Paris Hilton deal without that And some other kind of you know, celebrity stuff that I don't really care about.

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I'm trying to get out in front maybe on some of the algorithm training from my particular feeds, So like when I see the dipshits come in with the political stuff, instant block And that's what I did on Instagram.

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I did the same thing.

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I just don't want that.

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Final comment is how bad off are we that we look at a meta product as our saving grace?

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It's like whoof man.

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these are bad days, but anyhow, onto better topics.

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Not me, yo, that's it.

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That's pretty much it.

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I don't think I'll be there, But anyway I am there and I can't escape until they let me delete that account.

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Maybe I should just delete both of them.

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Oh no.

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Done with it.

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You know, no Instagram, no threads.

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Anyway, yes, let's move on to funer things, tom.

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More fun, let's have more fun.

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Yeah, I agree.

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So a couple of shows ago we did our WWDC recap show And in that show we focused a lot on the Apple Vision Pro headset, which I think was kind of the big announcement.

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Anyway, We talked a little bit about the operating systems, but we said we would come back to those at a later date.

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So we want to do a little bit of that, as we are almost to public beta season.

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I would imagine maybe even this week we could see the first ones of those.

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It's getting close, Like they usually crank those up in July.

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So I would say in the next week or two we should start to see that.

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So I thought it'd be good to kind of revisit that topic, Yeah.

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I agree with you, tom, and I have not.

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I haven't put a dev beta on any of my devices, have you?

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I have not, yeah, and I'm usually second-rounded on public beta.

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I'm not so so much into the early, early stuff, and I typically pop those on my phone.

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But what we did want to do is talk about things that we're kind of excited about in each of these new OS releases And there are several things There really are quite a few interesting new features that are going to pop up on each of these.

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That make for me some interesting options, and so we're going to kick it off with Mac OS, and this is this sounds so lame, but it's not lame We're going to see screensavers similar to those are probably the same as those that are on Apple TV popping up on Mac OS, which I love.

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I am often mesmerized by those on the, on the.

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TV.

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And so those are going to be showed up in Mac OS.

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I'm really excited about that, the ability to do that on my screen And, tom, as you pointed out, animation when transitioning to desktop image.

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By the way, also, if maybe this is only in iPad OS option, maybe it is, but live photos on lock screens I think, so we'll jump to that when we get there, right.

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Yeah, i think that's going to be nice.

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As you said on Apple TV, those are excellent.

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I've got an Apple TV in my office at work for quote testing purposes, you know, with the TV there, because testing out that only fans just blocks are working at college.

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Whoa, i didn't say that, tom.

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I'll run that through the project committee See if I can get that.

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Definitely not doing that at work.

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It's what it says folks Yeah.

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Don't believe a word of it.

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But but though typically during the day I have the TV on and just those screensavers rotating through.

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I don't have like an office with a window And, and so it's a nice little bit of you know scenery there in the office, so it is nice to see those.

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Coming officially to the Mac.

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There's been that third party screensaver I believe it was called aerials that you could download and it would pull the official Apple videos and you could use that, and so I used that for a while.

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But you know it'll be nice that Apple's going to have those built in.

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So that's a good one.

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Yeah, yeah, i love it.

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Definitely recommend giving those a shot, especially if you've got an Apple TV, for somehow you've never tried those.

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Do that as well.

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Yeah, i can't believe that you haven't.

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If you're, if you haven't absolutely turned this on, i'm sitting looking at him last night, and sometimes more interesting than what I might be watching on the television.

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Often more interesting than what's available streaming on the television.

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Next up some new video conferencing features, and this I really love it.

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We've all used, i would like to think, zoom or WebEx or God forbid teams Although teams seems to be the next big thing.

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But the biggest pain in the neck with those is their interfaces for sharing your screen.

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They're not fun, not easy, and one of the new features for video conferencing that Apple has introduced within the OS itself is the ability to.

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It's basically part of the sharing feature.

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You can have an app up and from that app you have the ability of using what Apple calls a screen, a share screen picker, and you have the.

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That's mouthful, you know what.

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I might have typed that wrong because I have a screen screen picker in the notes.

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I might have been at the beach with a gin and tonic in me or something, whatever.

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It's called screen picker.

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I think that is what it is.

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It's a screen picker that allows you, from the app itself, to say share this via Zoom or share this via whatever the application is, which is brilliant to me.

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Rather than if you use Zoom or use Teams, it jumps up a variety of windows and shows you everything that's possible.

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Oftentimes it's difficult to select the actual screen that you want to be able to share, especially if you're using dual screens.

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This feature it appears that whenever screens are on, you click that sharing option and it will pop that up on the screen for you.

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I really like that.

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That's a pretty cool feature, i think.

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Yeah, that should be a good one.

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if we can just get people trained, that it's there.

00:20:02.220 --> 00:20:14.403
Yeah, discoverability might be a little tricky with that one, but it is nice to have, like you said, because when you do it with Zoom it can be a bit overwhelming because it comes up with a lot to choose from.

00:20:14.730 --> 00:20:19.076
Yeah, nine times out of 10, how many meetings have you been in?

00:20:19.076 --> 00:20:23.740
Where somebody goes oh don't, didn't mean to share that and it's got their beach pictures from.

00:20:24.162 --> 00:20:26.017
Or worse 1980.

00:20:26.096 --> 00:20:30.237
Yeah, Worse does happen, It definitely does.

00:20:30.237 --> 00:20:48.792
I still remember some this is early in the pandemic some video of a bunch of people in class and some young woman took her laptop with her to the bathroom and put it down on the floor and then realized she had her camera on Mm-hmm.

00:20:48.833 --> 00:20:58.126
Co-worker of mine has a story similar to that with not with her, but a person that works at her husband's company did something similar.

00:20:58.648 --> 00:20:58.788
Mm-hmm.

00:20:59.190 --> 00:21:00.997
Yeah, god can't imagine.

00:21:00.997 --> 00:21:06.040
No, it's like Jesus, i have enough issues, i don't need that.

00:21:06.550 --> 00:21:06.751
Right.

00:21:06.751 --> 00:21:08.076
Share that with the universe.

00:21:08.076 --> 00:21:10.155
So anyway, yeah, so this.

00:21:10.155 --> 00:21:13.430
At least it won't keep you from walking into the bathroom with your laptop.

00:21:13.631 --> 00:21:16.770
There's no block on that, right.

00:21:16.770 --> 00:21:20.625
I think it's safe if you just have a no devices in the bathroom rule.

00:21:20.625 --> 00:21:21.750
The good cause.

00:21:21.750 --> 00:21:24.561
It's kind of the way I look at it, because then you just don't have to worry about it.

00:21:24.561 --> 00:21:25.487
Yeah, come on tell me.

00:21:25.487 --> 00:21:26.009
Yeah, you know.

00:21:26.410 --> 00:21:27.032
And it's nasty.

00:21:27.413 --> 00:21:28.798
Don't take your stuff into the toilet.

00:21:28.798 --> 00:21:31.636
Come on, you can put the damn phone down long enough to do your business.

00:21:34.625 --> 00:21:34.906
Okay.

00:21:35.171 --> 00:21:35.372
Yeah.

00:21:35.713 --> 00:21:38.068
Anyway, new rules, new rules, the new rules.

00:21:38.390 --> 00:21:40.376
Right Basic AF rules for life.

00:21:40.376 --> 00:21:41.540
That'll be our book.

00:21:42.351 --> 00:21:42.531
All right.

00:21:42.531 --> 00:21:43.576
So what do you got next on the list?

00:21:43.576 --> 00:21:45.445
Safari password management.

00:21:45.445 --> 00:21:54.105
All right, man, i still want to see some better version of the key chain application or passwords in system settings.

00:21:54.105 --> 00:22:11.798
But we've got a couple of things going on here which is separate Safari profile, so a work profile to store work passwords and related a personal profile for all your personal stuff, which I love the idea of that And then also password and pass key sharing.

00:22:12.269 --> 00:22:13.594
So, with family members.

00:22:13.594 --> 00:22:16.661
I believe this is the only way that that would work.

00:22:16.661 --> 00:22:18.269
At least is my recollection.

00:22:18.269 --> 00:22:20.557
But what a nice feature.

00:22:20.557 --> 00:22:24.209
Rather than the kids asking what's the Netflix password?

00:22:24.209 --> 00:22:29.690
again, you know you have the ability to share that stuff and make it easy, so I like both of those.

00:22:29.849 --> 00:22:39.289
Again, i really, really want to see some type of standalone or easier to access version of the key chain.

00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:42.990
I do use the key chain often to find old passwords.

00:22:42.990 --> 00:22:44.970
I'd like some tool that works better.

00:22:44.970 --> 00:22:48.950
As you know, tom, i know you're fully into one password.

00:22:48.950 --> 00:22:50.750
I am now fully into the chain.

00:22:50.750 --> 00:22:55.950
That is the way that I store all my stuff And I would like a better management tool.

00:22:55.950 --> 00:23:01.690
It does work well, but ask me how many people know how it is that they can find their old passwords?

00:23:01.690 --> 00:23:04.950
90% of people have no idea how to do that.

00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:23.069
So some easier tool, even if it was just a menu extra if that's what they're still calling those menu item I know they used to call menu extras more Right And I'm old and can't change But they something that would allow you to look up those passwords quickly, i think would be genius.

00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:32.107
But the fact that we have now more features available for creating, storing, using passwords and then sharing those with others.

00:23:32.107 --> 00:23:32.349
I love that.

00:23:32.391 --> 00:23:36.070
Yeah, definitely a nice addition, a nice addition to that, and that's.

00:23:36.070 --> 00:23:41.363
That's one of the things I've used one password for and why I've stuck with that.

00:23:41.363 --> 00:23:57.536
I've got a couple of vaults that I share out with the, with the family, for you know Netflix passwords and you know the streaming services and stuff like that, so but yeah, they keep tacking little bits on and it just seems inevitable that there's an app coming, but I guess there's always.

00:23:57.536 --> 00:24:04.012
They need something for next year, so it'll get here eventually, i expect, and by the way.

00:24:04.114 --> 00:24:07.561
There's a feature and I think this will show up in Mac OS.

00:24:07.561 --> 00:24:21.817
I know it's definitely an iPad and iOS, but you know a lot of times you get authentication via text, but very often there are companies that will only send it to your email address.

00:24:21.817 --> 00:24:23.816
There is now a feature.

00:24:23.816 --> 00:24:25.944
I know it's in iOS, in iPad OS.

00:24:25.944 --> 00:24:28.414
I would like to think it's also going to be in Mac OS.

00:24:28.609 --> 00:24:30.076
Yeah, it should carry over Yeah.

00:24:30.829 --> 00:24:32.838
Passes, those email.

00:24:32.838 --> 00:24:37.670
you know, right now, if you get a text message, it'll automatically offer to fill it in on on those devices.

00:24:37.670 --> 00:24:43.056
Those codes will pass through and you can just tap a little, a little thing that'll, that'll put those pass codes in.

00:24:43.056 --> 00:24:48.311
That's going to come through now in in mail So you get mailed one of those things You can.

00:24:48.311 --> 00:24:51.401
you'll have the ability to push that through as well, which I think is brilliant.

00:24:51.651 --> 00:24:52.253
Yeah, that'll be nice.

00:24:52.253 --> 00:25:05.676
Yeah, because when they added that to messages and and or I should say when they did the messages integration with Safari so they would pick those up and show it to you, i mean, that's been a nice time saver.

00:25:05.676 --> 00:25:12.221
And I think Android had that before, so I remember when that came out, the the Android people were like it's about time.

00:25:13.913 --> 00:25:17.869
But it was, it was about time, so I'm glad it's here And I think that'll be nice too.

00:25:17.869 --> 00:25:20.589
I don't have too many of those to just do the email thing.

00:25:20.589 --> 00:25:26.152
And of course you know as a whole separate conversation about the security of multi-factor via.

00:25:26.272 --> 00:25:39.066
SMS versus authenticator apps and pass keys and all that kind of thing, but that's a that's a whole different show, but I think that Safari password, stuff that we talked about there a minute ago, that should carry over as well, which which is one of the the pluses, right.

00:25:39.066 --> 00:25:39.771
So you know we're.

00:25:39.771 --> 00:26:01.153
When we were outlining this show, we thought, well, we could break it down by operating system, but the truth of the matter is the way that Apple's rolling things out is, these things generally will go across the whole ecosystem, so it'll cover Mac OS, ipad OS, ios, to a lesser extent, watch OS, because a lot of it just doesn't apply.

00:26:01.153 --> 00:26:03.145
But so that's.

00:26:03.145 --> 00:26:03.789
That's the nice thing.

00:26:03.789 --> 00:26:11.919
It's like you get, you get a feature and it's across the board so that you can really, if you dig into it and you start to use it, you get the benefit in multiple ways.

00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:21.470
Yeah, yeah, truly truly the case, and so excited to see that and excited to see again better and better features for password management.

00:26:21.470 --> 00:26:23.771
There's no reason that Apple can't do that, And clearly they are.

00:26:23.771 --> 00:26:46.336
they are in, of course, doing it well, at least as far as I'm concerned, which, speaking of integration across multiple devices, a couple of new features coming that again will be across devices which are updates to both PDF editing and the way the notes application works.

00:26:46.698 --> 00:26:47.519
Yeah, this should be great.

00:26:48.272 --> 00:26:50.309
I really, really am looking forward to this.

00:26:50.309 --> 00:27:10.045
So collaboration capabilities on PDFs, which hasn't been a feature before, so that's going to be a new thing where you can mark up PDFs together, automatic form filling using your contact information for PDFs and better form features in the.

00:27:10.045 --> 00:27:15.589
the preview application itself, again, i noticed I used to use PDFPenPro.

00:27:15.589 --> 00:27:18.057
PDFPenPro got picked up by another company.

00:27:18.057 --> 00:27:22.089
do not like Adobe Acrobat's interface at all.

00:27:22.089 --> 00:27:30.837
It's I don't know whose idea of UI that was, but when the revolution comes I think we need to take care of those guys.

00:27:33.250 --> 00:27:44.297
But the tools that Apple looks like they're adding to to the PDF tools PDF preview application look, it looks pretty brilliant.

00:27:44.297 --> 00:28:00.672
Likewise, in notes, we use notes you and I do for finals on the on the show notes that we have, we're still using Kraft, although maybe it's time to bounce into into notes for show notes as well.

00:28:00.672 --> 00:28:02.898
but we're using Kraft for show notes still presently.

00:28:02.898 --> 00:28:09.549
But number of features being able to link documents together or link notes together.

00:28:09.549 --> 00:28:23.877
One thing that I had not initially seen in the in the original presentation that Apple did is notes is also going to let you push some in the anything that you've done or anything that you create notes to a new pages document.

00:28:24.411 --> 00:28:25.193
So that looks good.

00:28:25.690 --> 00:28:34.377
Get some genius idea while you're on the road and typing up, you know the first pages of your presentation or your short novel, or whatever it is.

00:28:34.377 --> 00:28:36.089
You can push that directly into pages.

00:28:36.089 --> 00:28:41.210
It will create that new document and pages, which is a nice feature I'd like to see popped over to other things.

00:28:41.210 --> 00:28:50.637
I often as I've mentioned a bunch of times here I use Highland Pro to do all my writing, and I often, though we'll start with ideas and notes.

00:28:50.637 --> 00:28:54.838
You know, have something or see something that I, that I want to work with.

00:28:55.109 --> 00:29:04.540
I would love that to be pushed beyond just just pages, so hopefully there's an API out there that will allow you to do that.

00:29:04.540 --> 00:29:07.559
But I really like, really like those features.

00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:12.637
those are some nice things coming to both of those applications that I look forward to get my hands on.

00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:14.655
Yeah, likewise, that's good stuff.

00:29:14.856 --> 00:29:15.720
Next in line.

00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:24.404
This wasn't super clear, but there are going to be some better screen sharing options.

00:29:24.404 --> 00:29:30.799
Screen sharing works reasonably well, whether or not you know this.

00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:40.750
From the messages app, you have the ability to request to share somebody's screen, or they have the ability to to share theirs worth with you, which really really nice features.

00:29:40.750 --> 00:29:44.189
It still is a little I don't know hinky.

00:29:44.189 --> 00:30:00.910
For me, it doesn't always work in the way that I expected to, or the notification that people get at the remote end They don't doesn't always work, but apparently there are going to be some new features coming up that way And I would really really love to see something like this across all platforms.

00:30:00.910 --> 00:30:09.587
You know, i know that that's probably unlikely, which means I'll still be paying for team viewer to work with clients, which, by the way, ain't cheap.

00:30:10.190 --> 00:30:11.454
You know, that's a.

00:30:11.474 --> 00:30:21.303
It's a hefty, hefty nut once a year that I pay for team viewer to be able to work with my clients, but I would.

00:30:21.303 --> 00:30:22.729
I have always liked, and they had this feature.

00:30:22.729 --> 00:30:29.116
I think I have always liked and they had this in iChat back in the day the ability that you had to be able to share people's screens.

00:30:29.116 --> 00:30:35.383
Any enhancements to that, particularly across other devices, to me seems like an amazing tool.

00:30:35.383 --> 00:30:44.730
And, if I'm not wrong, if I I think you also have the ability now to see iOS device screens using this, which you can't really do with other things.

00:30:44.891 --> 00:30:46.576
I believe that's the case.

00:30:46.576 --> 00:30:47.769
It's not control.

00:30:47.769 --> 00:30:49.588
I don't believe there's a control piece of that.

00:30:49.588 --> 00:30:57.320
But man, so much, so much easier to be able to work with people and walk them through things rather than the.

00:30:57.320 --> 00:30:58.747
Okay, can you see this?

00:30:58.747 --> 00:30:59.250
Okay, click that Right.

00:30:59.250 --> 00:31:01.204
Okay, now that you've clicked that, there should be five options.

00:31:01.204 --> 00:31:04.769
I'm not seeing it, Okay.

00:31:07.020 --> 00:31:45.284
Look closer, Yeah, And you know, the biggest complaint that I've had with with screen sharing and and I don't do a lot of it like we use Apple remote desktop, which is still limping along after all these years, to, to, to get into our classrooms at the office, It's just that it's so it feels like it's in molasses, Like yeah, a little laggy, And it's like you click something and the menu comes up eventually And it's just, and I don't understand why it's still that way, Because when you and I think it's just the approach they're taking must just be different from how Microsoft does it.

00:31:45.849 --> 00:32:11.994
Microsoft does it because this is one of those things that Microsoft has nailed for years, Like if you use the remote desktop app to get into a PC it's great, like super responsive, and I've never had an issue with it And I don't know if they've got some type of patent around that or what, but but Apple's has never been to that level and maybe they just haven't cared.

00:32:11.994 --> 00:32:13.790
I mean, it's good enough, you know.

00:32:14.964 --> 00:32:37.465
I think there's and this may be a complete fabrication on my own part, but my understanding was I think I read somewhere, and this is years ago is that the way that Microsoft remote desktop work it works is you're not seeing a video stream, You're getting screenshots and they're you know they're basically update, update, update, update.

00:32:37.465 --> 00:32:47.355
Much lower bandwidth and requirement And in my understanding, is that screen sharing on the Mac OS side is a stream.

00:32:47.355 --> 00:32:49.891
You're getting essentially a video screen to stream.

00:32:50.172 --> 00:33:10.150
Right, because Apple says in the write up for this on the preview page for Sonoma and says the new high performance mode sounds fancy Yeah, which requires them to, i think, uses the advanced media engine in Apple Silicon to enable highly responsive remote access over high bandwidth connections.

00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:17.409
And there's a one next to that, and let's scroll to the bottom and see what that says Available on Mac computers with Apple Silicon.

00:33:17.848 --> 00:33:20.996
Yeah, okay, so not not just M twos, it's Apple Silicon, yeah.

00:33:22.644 --> 00:33:29.752
So I can remote into a janky PC and get fantastic performance, but I need Apple Silicon to get something better than what we're getting.

00:33:29.752 --> 00:33:32.854
Anyhow, on to the next topic.

00:33:33.265 --> 00:33:34.108
Yes, yes, yes.

00:33:34.108 --> 00:33:39.517
This is maybe hard to explain on TV, but the feature called visual lookup.

00:33:39.517 --> 00:34:00.675
So you see a recipe you know, or you see a picture of a very delicious meal on somebody's Instagram since we were talking about those guys This new visual lookup feature will allow you to take that screenshot and say find me a recipe that makes this particular meal, and it will pull that up.

00:34:00.675 --> 00:34:03.029
Tom's looking like he's never heard of this before.

00:34:03.029 --> 00:34:03.852
No, no, i have.

00:34:03.852 --> 00:34:04.012
Yeah.

00:34:04.614 --> 00:34:05.134
Yeah, you got that.

00:34:05.134 --> 00:34:10.675
look on your face And and and other things like my wife uses that to look at plants and stuff.

00:34:11.666 --> 00:34:18.070
I do too, and things like Merlin to you know figure out what birds are singing around me, but this is a.

00:34:18.070 --> 00:34:30.307
I really liked the idea of being able to take pictures and then have it pull up, you know whatever recipes it might be able to find based on what the picture sees Built into the OS.

00:34:30.307 --> 00:34:35.594
By the way, this is built into the OS, so you don't need another app to be able to find that?

00:34:36.146 --> 00:34:37.753
Is that where they did the demo and the keynote?

00:34:37.753 --> 00:34:38.777
where they showed like the?

00:34:38.777 --> 00:34:51.795
I think it was where they showed like the refrigerator or stuff on the counter and they were like you've got the ingredients here or some recipes, i don't recall that particular segment, but I do believe that that's what what was getting pulled up here.

00:34:51.856 --> 00:34:52.737
So I like that idea.

00:34:52.737 --> 00:34:54.550
So that's, that's good.

00:34:54.550 --> 00:35:03.755
Also, as we kind of roll down the line, there are going to be some updates to the dictation feature that will allow you to both type and speak.

00:35:03.755 --> 00:35:13.208
Not me, not not walking and chewing gum at the same time, but the ability to both speak to your computer.

00:35:13.208 --> 00:35:23.574
So mostly when I'm speaking, when I'm typing, those would be expletives, So that'll be fun, But the ability to to integrate the two of those.

00:35:23.574 --> 00:35:25.150
So I want to play with that.

00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:30.494
Don't know much more, other than than there are some interesting updates to the dictation feature.

00:35:30.735 --> 00:35:33.925
Yeah, and they've been building on that the last couple of releases too.

00:35:33.925 --> 00:35:39.715
So good to see, and I think that's something I'm looking to to maybe use more.

00:35:39.715 --> 00:35:55.833
You know, i've got the newsletter that I do and things like that, and all of that stuff flows easier for me verbally than to to write it, so I may just start using dictation to get the first first takes and then I can throw it in Grammarly and make it actually something people understand.

00:35:56.686 --> 00:35:58.972
Pop it in chat GPT to change it completely.

00:35:59.052 --> 00:35:59.673
I could do that.

00:35:59.673 --> 00:36:00.677
Yeah, could do that.

00:36:00.677 --> 00:36:02.505
Yeah, that'd be good.

00:36:02.505 --> 00:36:05.673
Also, kind of, but not exactly.

00:36:05.673 --> 00:36:06.396
You mentioned keyboard.

00:36:06.396 --> 00:36:08.329
There There's some keyboard stuff coming too.

00:36:08.329 --> 00:36:10.485
They're going to.

00:36:10.485 --> 00:36:20.170
They say have made auto correct improvements God please, i hope so, And it's not.

00:36:20.170 --> 00:36:21.795
All of us are thinking that, i'm sure.

00:36:21.795 --> 00:36:24.251
And they've added inline predictions.

00:36:24.251 --> 00:36:31.711
So if you start typing something you know, make a recommendation for what it thinks you might mean to say in the rest of the sentence.

00:36:32.804 --> 00:36:42.793
Let me just say I hate that in Microsoft, like when you're when you're typing an outlook and it maybe you don't use that, look, but on the iOS I do it it will suggest Say have that.

00:36:42.793 --> 00:36:44.009
And it's like dude.

00:36:45.527 --> 00:36:50.036
Yeah, i've seen it in Gmail because we use that pretty heavily at work.

00:36:50.036 --> 00:36:58.028
I don't use well, i should say I don't see it a lot because I don't use the Gmail web interface a lot, but sometimes I do And that's been pretty good.

00:36:58.028 --> 00:36:59.253
So we'll see.

00:36:59.253 --> 00:37:03.527
I don't know if I'll use it a whole lot, but it's coming If you do that kind of thing, correct?

00:37:03.668 --> 00:37:05.052
Sorry, that's hard to do me the bitch.

00:37:05.052 --> 00:37:07.155
Yeah, and so we'll see.

00:37:07.155 --> 00:37:10.385
We shall see what happens there.

00:37:10.385 --> 00:37:15.217
And then you also mentioned I thought we're supposed to get the health app.

00:37:15.217 --> 00:37:16.891
I want to see it in macOS.

00:37:16.891 --> 00:37:17.867
I don't think it's there yet.

00:37:17.887 --> 00:37:22.112
Yeah, I believe just iPad this year and maybe Mac next year.

00:37:22.112 --> 00:37:24.771
Okay, But, yeah, that'll be good.

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