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It's probably just a stroke.
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All right, welcome in.
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It is another episode of Basic AF.
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I'm Tom, along with Jeff.
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Jeff, how we doing.
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I'm Well, tom, when I just want to point out that, even though we sound nice now, we've completely gone off the rails before we even began this evening.
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So Well, that's what we usually do.
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It's true.
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Yeah, and so we're Another show, want to say welcome if you're new, thanks for checking us out and giving us a shot and hope that we earn a spot on your playlist and, if you're coming back for another episode, thank you for your ongoing support of the show.
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We do very much appreciate it.
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This episode, jeff, we have a guest with us again, tom, you, you just don't want to do things with me alone anymore.
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You kind of weird me out, man.
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Adam's already taking us down a path.
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Great Thank you, he has so joining us on this episode, former colleague of mine, Adam Olson.
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Adam, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, good to be here.
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Yep.
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And so when Adam and I worked together, how long ago did you leave, like how long ago?
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It feels like it's about six years or so, five minutes after you arrived.
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And I'm glad it feels longer to you, Tom.
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I appreciate it.
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It does.
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Yeah, it seems like it's been quite a while, but, like we've said on this show before, like the COVID period, I'm still trying to get like time back from that, like it got really weird.
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But Adam and I used to get together and hang out I don't know every couple of months, I think and we would nerd out on workflows and automation and productivity hacks and things like that.
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And Jeff, you had an idea for a show based, you know, on that topic and I thought, oh, I know the perfect guy to bring in for this.
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I got a nurse.
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Right.
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And that's when I pulled out my collection of automations and then Adam pulled out his collection of automation.
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I was like, okay, I'm gonna go home now.
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I thought I was doing pretty well, but I got nothing, man.
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Yeah, that's impressive, and we're going to dig into that.
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So the premise for this show will be automations, workflows.
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And before we kind of start down the path, I would encourage you, if you're listening in your ear, don't be intimidated by those words automations and workflows.
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You can have very simple automations that you get benefit from on a daily basis.
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They don't have to be these complex 100 step things although I think Adam's got some of those but you just don't have to have that, and so we're going to dig into that.
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So I encourage you, even if it's something, you're thinking how this is going to go way over your head, it won't completely.
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So you know we may, towards the end of the show, maybe dig into some super nerdy stuff, but we do want to try to make it beneficial for you as well, so that you can maybe take some of these away and apply them in a practical manner.
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Yeah, and to give you an idea of, like, the simplicity of some automations, one of the ones that I use now regularly is a double pat, double, a double tap on the back of my phone to open up the Halide app.
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So it's using a feature that's built into iOS that allows you to tap the back of your phone to.
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You know, typically typically that's an accessibility feature, but I've enabled that so that I can open Halide, which is photo app, because iOS at least presently and probably not in the next version of iOS it doesn't allow you to select a particular camera app.
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So this gives me the ability to do that, and it was a really simple, really simple script that that I created that I can use with a shortcut app and just opens up Halide and I'm ready to go.
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So, as Tom says I got screenshots for that same thing.
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Double tap and a lot of unintended screenshots at that.
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Oh good, great.
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So just want to point out already Adam's not as smart as you be, because he's taken screenshots with a double tap.
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I was embarrassed to be on this show.
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Now I'm feeling like I'm kind of smart.
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We're in our element, Jeff.
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Okay, good call.
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I'm sorry, Adam, I didn't mean to denigrate you within the first five minutes but it's done.
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We're setting the bar low, so that's good.
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I have nowhere to go.
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No, we've gone this show man.
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So, adam, if you don't mind, you want to tell us a little bit, like what Apple products are you using these days?
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I know, like I say, it's been five or six years, so, like in terms of Mac, phone, watch, that kind of stuff, what do you have these days?
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So the gamut.
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I don't have my goggles yet, but I've got a watch phone, ipad, fairly new M1 Mac Pro, so I still got the old trash can, so I'm running that as a desktop as well.
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So, and I just got rid of the 40 Mac minis that I bought off of you, tom.
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So those are the box you sent me.
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Take sure of those boxes.
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No, we used to take our old computers at the office and when they reached the end of life we'd do like a community, if you want to call it that, a CO, for, like the staff and faculty and Adam was always there picking up stuff for who knows what projects- After a while.
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Why do I have so many of these?
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So I just gave them out to people in the office.
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I had probably 10 to 12 of those things.
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So, oh my gosh.
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Oh yeah, I'll use that for a server.
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Yeah, I'll use that for Plex server or like I want anything to do with these.
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You're trying to look at these.
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Exactly so.
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That's pretty much my gamut, though.
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So I haven't got the new watch.
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That does look appealing.
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I hiked the grand last year and I got about a thousand feet from the top and my watch died on me and I thought if I had the new watch I'd make it day and a half.
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So I was pretty mad I didn't get my elevation gain on that one.
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So Right.
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That's been good.
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Very cool, and it looks like you have a pretty hefty list of applications that you use on the regular too.
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So why don't you tell us a little bit about, like, who you are, what you do, how you knew, tom, what you were doing at Shenandoah and what you're?
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doing now?
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Yeah, so I, uh, I'm a guitar player that ended up messing up my hands and got into the other side of the glass with a recording technology which I actually wanted nothing to do with.
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I remember early teachers that were talking about pedals and stuff and I didn't want to do anything.
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Technology and my days are now or about 12 plus hours a day on a computer for the last 25, year, 20 years, something like that.
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So it's been.
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It's been a lot.
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Um, like I mentioned earlier, I had a lot of keynotes and very invested in Apple.
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I finally just left Windows, for the most part about three years ago.
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So, um, I was in Pyramix and some other audio applications that just from companies that I was working in that were on Windows.
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But, um, quicken was my last stretch of just keeping me on Windows and I finally just bagged that on Windows.
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Don't do any more VM boots into that.
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There's a.
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There's a rare handful of times that I'll have to go into some Windows for different things, but I I've been an app junkie probably for about 15 years, so hence Tom and I's conversation.
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So I've I've all those deals that they they throw out on a zillion different sites.
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I generally tend to buy them.
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If they're five, ten bucks, I'll I'll throw money that their way and see if they're useful, and I've got probably thousands of apps that I've just left to be archived and never to use again.
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So, um, but it was tricky when you guys asked me, like what, what are some of the main apps?
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But, um, I trimmed it down to these are.
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These are the apps that I do use regularly.
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We can, we can get into OmniFocus.
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I mean, there's a handful of apps that I use all the time.
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Yeah, so why don't you tell us what those are and in the why behind, why you use them?
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Sure, um, just, I guess, fly, fly through these.
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So OmniFocus, it's a GTD method of getting things done and it's, um, it's the the best one that I've found.
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Tom, are you still using things you had mentioned?
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You were on one of your shows.
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Did you bag that?
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I've been doing an experiment with reminders.
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Okay.
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Um, but, and part of it's just because of the.
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It's got like the position one for Siri stuff, which I do a lot of stuff with the watch in particular um, with Siri to say, hey, remind me blah, blah, blah, blah, or in the car with car playing stuff, and you can set up that kind of link between things and reminders and stuff.
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But I thought, well, let me give reminders a shot because it has the benefit of being the Apple app.
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But I gotta tell you I opened things yesterday and I was like, oh, how pretty it is.
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And it was like and I hadn't looked at it in a while, uh so on the edge of going back yeah, I'm thinking maybe I'll go back or at least try that uh again, try that uh uh.
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Integration between the two, where you can set up like a designated reminders list and reminders that things will just pick it up from and drop it in your things list.
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So I do that.
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Yeah, I wish there was something that was a little bit better integrated.
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So so there's been a lot of amens as I've been listening to your show on different things.
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You're talking about Siri and how, how things integrate.
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You're that's one that drives me nuts.
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I wish I could just do a hey Siri easily and and have things jump into the, into OmniFocus.
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Well, but it seems so hit and miss, even though they've added those features.
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So, um, anyway, so that's OmniFocus.
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That's what I use for that.
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I absolutely love the GTD method.
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Um, won't go into that too much, but um I I think that it's fantastic that it's super simple.
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Or you can make it really complicated based on areas that you're at and projects and everything else, but both of those are basically similar apps.
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Um I I just gravitated towards OmniFocus because it seemed a little bit more powerful and I use Apple Scripts all the time on it and it seemed a lot better to use Apple Scripts with it than than things.
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So that's why I went that route.
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Um, pro Tools, cubase, new Window I'm an audio engineer, so I do.
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I'm in and out of Pro Tools all day long, so that's uh app.
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I live and die by Logic's been great.
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I'm a um, certified Logic, um advanced instructor, but I I don't find myself in Logic as much as I, um, as much as these other two apps.
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So there's just things that bother me a little bit with Logic and the way they edit and it.
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It does certain things, but fantastic app as well, um, uh, you, I want me to just keep flowing.
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Yeah, tell us, tell us what you're using and why.
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Yep, yep.
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So, um, as far as just straight up, apple, a, a given is calendar, so I use that.
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Um with the app sessions, we can get into that with some um, some flow workflow things with Keyword, maestro and some other stuff, but basically, um, the, the thing that I really like with that is again the integration with some Apple scripting things.
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That, um that I throw basically keeps track of what I'm doing for my day.
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I used my calendar more to track histories than I do of upcoming events for Apple calendar.
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And, um, tom, you had mentioned in the in an earlier show, just, I, you know, I I used my calendar more to track things that I throw.
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That basically keeps track of what I'm doing for my day.
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I use my calendar more to track histories than I do of upcoming events for Apple Calendar.
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And, tom, you had mentioned in an earlier show just trying to find a nice integration with the watch and everything.
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And man, I went through so many apps for the calendar like dozens of apps I downloaded and paid probably hundreds of dollars trying to find something that integrated really well.
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I use Fantastic Cal forever and I'm not a fan anymore.
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I love the groups in Fantastic Cal.
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There's things that it does well, but there's just too many issues and subscription and everything else.
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So the thing that I actually surprisingly settled on was for the watch at least integration between everything to keep track of what's up is Outlook.
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Outlook actually syncs fairly fast and it syncs between Apple Calendar, which I throw out on Apple Calendar, and then it goes to the watch app really well and shows me what I'm doing and what's coming up next.
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We can talk about Pomodoro in a second, but when I'm doing a Pomodoro or whatever task I'm in, it tells me when I'm done really well, and it has a nice integration there.
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So that's what I settled on, which was kind of surprising, since I don't know if it's Microsoft.
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Check that out.
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Yeah, I'll go back and look.
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Jeff, you use Outlook on iOS, right?
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Do you still do that?
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More very specific things.
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I use it for some of the people I consult with because their calendars are in Microsoft Office.
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I use FantasticOwl that's my go-to but it sounds like the things that I'm using it for, which is really just to keep track of what's coming up, as opposed to historical information.
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So that may be why Everybody has a subscription I mean even Apple now with their iPad apps for final cut.
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And what was the other one?
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Logic, Logic, yeah.
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Logic yeah, so a little annoyed.
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That annoyance goes a long ways, by the way, for every single.
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If you're using the sub stack or something like that anybody that you're reading on sub stack in order to see the details, you have to subscribe.
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It's like damn it.
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I just want to.
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You know Where's a magazine where I can subscribe once and read 50 articles, as opposed to subscribe to 50 people and read it one time.
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But you know it's a.
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You know I'm a little subscribed out and I probably, when I get a few minutes, want to think about that.
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But I do love Fantastic Hell, so Fantastic Hell for me integrates really well with that look.
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So I haven't found anything else.
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Maybe you guys have.
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That actually does the grouping like Fantastic Hell does, cause I have so many different calendars for things that just be able to click and turn all of a certain group off at once.
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That was, and there's key commands you can assign, so that I loved about Fantastic Hell for sure, so it's really good for that, not that I use that but and they raised that subscription too- last year.
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Yeah, they did Right and it was fairly considerable amount, and I was on the fence but I've kind of, you know, I've hit the crack and so I'm stuck with it.
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So, so, so.
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I'll just automate these check boxes with keyboard by stress over there, right, yeah, so I mean, it's probably honestly, it's probably at its limit for what I'm like if they were to say, next year, bump it again.
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I'd probably be like hmm, I think I'm good.
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Yeah, I might be the same, but we'll see.
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So anyway, all right Adam Cool.
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Yeah, so Pathfinder is a huge one.
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And this, again, this is one of those things that I have looked everywhere.
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I worked with this company for a while, about probably five years ago I have not found anything in the Finder that actually allows you to drag and drop and just merge the folders really well.
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I mean, I know there's a zillion little tiny apps that you can do and, but just something that's smooth like that.
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Windows has been doing that since at least Windows 98 and that will tell you this one's newer, which one do you want to keep?
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So, yeah, again, tons of little utility apps, but they do not do it as well as Pathfinder.
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That's the main reason I've been using it.
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I've been in it for hours and hours at a time At this point just merging a bunch of old junk and things that needed to be put together that I didn't want to go all the way down to the sub level or if they had shared names.
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So that app has been fantastic.
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I loved it.
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So, pathfinder, I'm still using Quicksilver, if you remember that app from way back in the day.
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So Quicksilver, I remember the name, I can't even remember what it.
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It's basically Alfred, so it's like it's a launcher.
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Yeah, as far as I know, I think it was probably one of the first ones that were ever there.
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I mean, it'd be Taskbar, and now what's the one I just spent time with?
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I can't even think of what's called.
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It's with the queue.
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Yeah, I had that on my Mac for a while too.
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I think I know what one you're talking about, which is it's kind of a freeware app or was yeah, yeah, yeah, can't remember what it is, but I know exactly what you're talking about.
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Great little app.
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I liked it.
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Yeah, so the one that we can't give a name to.
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It's Raycast, so Raycast, there we go.
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Yeah, it's not a queue.
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So that's Quicksilver.
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So Raycast, that one's good.
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There was just multiple limitations on how it managed screens and different things I did and it wasn't enough to jump over.
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If it was going to combine a few other apps that I used, then I would have stuck with it.
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But, tom, you guys gripe about window management on Mac.
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That was actually one that got me into starting the program in the first place, because I had spent 100 plus hours trying to find apps to be able to manage windows.
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I now use size up.
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I actually wrote my own app back 10 years ago that I integrated with Quicksilver SP Resize, because I was constantly moving windows around and grabbing the sides.
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It was a nightmare and still it's a horrendous mess managing windows, especially if you have things vertically stacked.
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No windows, any app that I've ever seen, ever remembers that.
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Even within apps that manage windows, they don't ever remember the right locations.
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They don't pull them down lengthwise.
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It seems to do OK sideways, but we've got anyway where I work.
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I've got things vertically stacked and then off to the side and it's just a mess.
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I can't stand it.
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Windows has had that figured out forever now, so that one I love.
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There's certain things that Apple does, so two apps that I use for that again is size up.
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And then the other app that is definitely worth mentioning is Switch Res X, and that's allowed me if you mess with that, that's allowed me to be able to turn off certain monitors.
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So I have four monitors that I work with.
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There's times where I need to just turn off one of them and you can just use a key command.
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I use that at work all the time.
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Tom, when I was with you In the studio, all four of us that were in there constantly we had vertically stacked, which I hate.
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I hate the vertical stacked, the way it works.
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So I would always lay the, even though they're vertically, I'd lay them out sideways, and the guys other guys would hate that.
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Switch Res X handled all that stuff.
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So it's just, everybody had their own key command assigned.
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It also allowed me to throw Apple scripts in, so it would change the desktop background and resize the screen as well, and so as soon as they came up, they would see oh, it's not my desktop, I can see we're on Adams or somebody else, as they would run a key command and then it would move all the monitors.
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So fantastic app for that.
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Yeah, that's nice.
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And it still works great.
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So in Ventura we're using it.
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I've been using that, I don't know, for at least eight years, so that one's been great.
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So you guys had TextExpander.
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I use TextExpander still.
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I still don't do the subscription.