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Oct. 16, 2023

Riding Shotgun: Inside the Subie & YOU! Podcast with Rafael Ruiz

Ever wondered how to turn a passion into a successful podcast? Join us as we chat with Rafael Ruiz, the charismatic host of the Subie & YOU! podcast, which has amassed over 140 episodes and an impressive 100,000+ downloads. Discover how Rafael harnessed the power of Instagram and the enthusiastic Subaru community to create an engaging and popular podcast. We get under the hood of his podcasting journey, exploring how he cleverly used collaborations and guest features to rev up his listener numbers.

Listen in as Rafael gives us a peek into his podcast production process, sharing valuable insights gleaned from recording, editing and managing his hit show.  So buckle up and get ready for a ride along with Rafael.

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Chapters

00:00 - Intro

01:03 - Hello Rafael Ruiz!

03:15 - Origins of Subie & YOU!

11:51 - Rafael's Podcasting Gear

15:57 - Make Money Podcasting?

19:39 - Running the Show

30:01 - Community Building

39:48 - Working With Guests

43:55 - Recording & Editing

47:31 - Rafael's Apple Gear

01:06:57 - Close

Transcript
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I didn't know, when I first started it, that I was going to get sponsored.

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I didn't know that Subaru of America was going to reach out to me and say, hey, we've got some opportunities.

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We want to run by you.

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All right, welcome in.

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It is a new episode of Basic AF.

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Tom A, Jeff B.

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Back together again for a new show.

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Jeff, how's it going?

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It's good, tom.

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I'm here, I'm breathing, I'm among the living, I'm doing all those things.

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Yeah, it's good stuff.

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Happy to be here, happy to see your bright, smiling face.

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Likewise.

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Likewise, we have a very special guest on this episode.

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We have Rafael Ruiz joining us.

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He is the host of the Subi and you podcast.

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You've probably heard Jeff refer a couple of times to the side project that I have that Subaru related, and so Rafael and I have been chatting back and forth for two plus years, I think at this point, through Instagram and messages and everything.

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So he has his own podcast for the Subaru community, the Subi and you podcast, and has found some great success with it.

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Well, over 140 episodes, 100,000 plus total downloads.

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So, rafael, thank you so much for joining us.

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It's a pleasure to have you.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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Thanks for having me on and thanks for that great intro.

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You said that you're going to have somebody very special on, so I'm wondering who that is.

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Okay, sorry, pal, it's you.

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The Easter Bunny's not coming to this one.

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Yeah, we got a ways for that yeah.

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So we know you're slumming with us.

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So that's a pretty straightforward.

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Yeah, and we do appreciate you taking time to join us for this one.

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Yeah, no, very glad to be here.

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It's nice to be a guest on another podcast.

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Right, you don't have much work to do with this one you just talked to us.

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Yeah, nice change Wax eloquent.

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Yeah, rafael had me on his show, episode 78, about a year and a half ago and, to be honest, that's kind of what got the itch going again for me to want to do podcasting.

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Jeff and I did a show with friend of ours back in 2011 and we hit 30 couple episodes.

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I think it was for that and then that kind of fell off John Mangino.

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Yeah, Hi John.

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We know you listen.

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And so he had me on his show and it was a lot of fun.

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We had a great conversation and I was like, hey, that kind of has me wanting to do this stuff again, and it took a little while, but then Jeff and I reconnected.

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But anyhow, we have Rafael along.

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We want to talk to him about his show and how he produces that, manages it, edits records not necessarily in that order Systems.

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He has apps that he uses, things like that and let you all get to know him a little bit better and, hopefully, enjoy the show.

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Yeah, and I think the starting point is how did you get started doing this?

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It's kind of interesting because obviously Subaru's vehicles.

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I'm a genius and we all know this already and it's interesting that you kicked off a podcast.

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How did you get started?

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Why did you start doing this?

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What kind of precipitated that?

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I bought a Subaru Crosstrek back in September of 2020 and had no idea that there was this humongous community out there.

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I knew I wanted a Crosstrek for years and I also wanted to get a manual.

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So that's a little bit different because they're pretty rare with the Crosstrek.

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So I bought the Crosstrek, started an Instagram account because I was following some other Subaru's with my personal account and I started to see really quickly that people are very passionate about their Subaru's, and back then reels weren't a thing, so there wasn't.

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It's mostly just pictures and captions.

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So I again very quickly saw that people are passionate.

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So I decided because I had done a podcast before this and so I already had some equipment, kind of knew how to interview people and I had some ideas of what I wanted to do.

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But I was thinking maybe people might be interested in sharing more about their car, you know, their mods and then also their Subaru journey, and I didn't know it would become what it has.

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But so that was kind of where the idea came from.

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And then there's this woman that does decals.

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Her name is Jen.

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She goes, her account is eccentric designs and I started connecting with her, became friends, bought some decals and I got her to be my first guest, and so that was kind of how it all started.

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Very interesting.

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So you started that in what year you started?

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You got your Subaru in 2020.

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Yeah, you kicked off the podcast a long after that.

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My first episode released on Monday, january 4th of 2021, because I wanted to release it for the new year for 2021.

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And I was like, well, january 1st is a holiday, so a lot of people may not listen to it.

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It's also on a Friday, so people are going to be out partying and stuff.

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Who's going to want to listen to a podcast?

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So I'm like, let me just do it on Monday and then I'll just release them every Monday from then on.

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And so Jen with eccentric designs had she had been doing that for about six months, a lot of people in the community knew who she and they knew who she was, who she was, and people were already buying her decals.

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She also has a separate car account and a lot of people were following that.

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So having her on is my first guest and I had put out a little teaser on my page.

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But having her as my first guest and people seeing that people kind of freaked out and then came to the podcast pretty quickly and just started growing from there.

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Wow.

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That's very smart.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So it's really interesting to see that and then to kind of pick up, just based on the fact that you saw a couple things on Instagram, had you seen Tom's stuff?

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Actually, tom, when did you put your start doing your site?

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It's been a couple of years.

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Oh, it's been, yeah, nine years now.

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Nine years 2014.

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Yeah, yeah, okay, which sometimes I wonder that must be crazy, that's what I'm doing.

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But yeah, well, I mean you get connected with accounts, especially like in the.

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Through Instagram and the Subaru community.

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You come across so many people and you get connected with so many people, like I don't remember how.

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I get connected with a lot of different people.

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So I'm sure that I saw Tom's account somewhere or somebody shared it in their stories or something, and so I thought it was really cool what he is doing, because his account isn't he's not featuring his own Subaru, he's featuring other Subarus, and so I thought that was really cool and I reached out to him and was like asked him if he'd be interested in being on the podcast to talk about what he's been doing and, especially since he's been doing it for so long featuring all these other builds and finding out how he is getting these people onto his account, like is he reaching out and asking them for permission or is he just sharing their accounts.

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So that was a good episode and interesting to find out how he got started, what he was doing, and we've been state connected and we help each other out.

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He's got the newsletter, so he includes like a rewind for the podcast and the newsletter, which I very, very much appreciate and I remember at times to share in my stories that he has a newsletter and try to get people to sign up for it.

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Yeah, and I'm happy to share that.

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I think one, because you're just such a nice guy.

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And you really are, and I think that's part, a big part actually, of the reason why your show has done so well is because when people sit and they talk to you and get to know you and plus you're going out to events and things now too but you're, you know, you're just a likable, sincere, good person and I think that attracts people.

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Thank you, thank you.

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I hope so.

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I have a lot of people say too that I have a very calming voice and I was recording with a guy.

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I think it was last night.

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I was talking to him and he said that and I'm like man, I hope I'm not putting people to sleep while they're driving.

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No.

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I'm getting it directs because, oh yeah, I was listening to the Subin U podcast and his calming voice.

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Maybe that could be your other gig.

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Hey, I've thought about it.

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Yeah, there are some opportunities with that.

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No, I've actually I took a.

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I'm trying to thank you.

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I took a voiceover course a little over a year ago, because I had so many people compliment my voice.

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I'm like, okay, I guess I have a nice voice, let me see if I can, you know, give this a shot.

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And I've done a couple of things so far.

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That's great, yeah, and listening to you now, I'm ready to take a nap.

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No, all right, we lost Jeff.

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I don't add much to this anyways, it's been lost for a while.

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So in 2021, january 2021, you kick off your first podcast.

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You're now at how many episodes is it again?

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You're at 140?

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142.

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This past Monday I released 142.

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142 episodes.

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Now does that count?

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But you have had bonus episodes.

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Yeah, it's not Thanks to you, it's just 142.

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I also have bonus episodes.

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I have quite a few because I went to Subifest California.

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I did a bonus episode from there because I recorded with people.

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I went to Subaru Flat Fest, which is in Madison, wisconsin.

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I have a bonus episode from that.

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I went to last year.

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They had the big event at Gilman Subaru Southwest, so I did a bonus episode from there.

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And just recently they had Subifest Texas and I recorded with four of the kind of Texas Dallas area dealerships and that was a bonus episode.

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But I also did there's something that I did that I wanted to do more of.

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It's just I just don't have a lot of time to do it.

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But I did one episode with a couple of guys called Tales from the Trails, where they were just talking about crazy stuff that happened while they were out and hitting some trails, right.

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Which was probably a fun episode to do.

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Oh it was, and it was cool too, because I had met them.

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It was with Chris and Juan.

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Chris goes by Shadow Roo.

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He was episode seven, the one that I recorded with the funky phone.

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And then Juan he was.

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I think it was episode 12.

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And so I went to Colorado because I was going to do the episode with them and then I said wait a minute, I'm going to be coming out there and we're going to hit some trails together and I want to wait until after I come out there so that I can be part of that episode, so we can talk about Tales from the Trails with me in it as well.

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So that was what we did.

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Nice, nice.

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So let's go back to that.

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So episode one the early days.

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I know we talked a little bit before we started to record about this, but I thought it was interesting In the early beginning, which makes sense the early beginning not the late beginning, not the middle.

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Yeah, yeah, the middle beginning or the end beginning.

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It's been a long day, so in the early days of your podcast, what type of a setup did you have?

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So back then I had the Scarlett 4i4 and then I had that going through my MacBook and then my microphone was the Shure MV88, which is this small, tiny little condenser microphone that I bought as part of a video kit because I was thinking that it would be cool to have that and use it at events or something.

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And I bought it before I even started the Subaru podcast, because I had mentioned earlier that I had another podcast so, and it was a vegan themed podcast and I was going out to like vegan festivals and stuff and I thought it'd be cool to have for those kind of events Gotcha.

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So that's what I was using with my other podcast and that's what I started off with this one.

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And then again, with episode seven, I ran into the issue of recording a phone call.

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So that was when I upgraded to the Roadcaster Pro, because it has the ability to take a phone call and record that way, which I really really like, right.

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Okay, so Roadcaster Pro, still, you've got a Shure.

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Which Shure do you have there?

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So actually I have the this is a Shure, I think it's the MV7B, because I know there's like the MV7 that a lot of the bigger the.

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Joe Rogan mic.

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Huh, it's the Joe Rogan mic.

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Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit of a crossing.

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So this is kind of like the baby brother of that and I so when I all of my equipment that I used, I ended up doing a lot of research, looked up a lot of YouTube videos and that was how I selected my equipment.

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So I got I did.

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This was a new mic.

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It's relatively new, and so when I found out that it was coming out and it was half the cost, I'm like I'm gonna upgrade to that, let's do that.

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Yeah, I did a lot of the same thing before I pulled the trigger on.

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What I was going to get is like lots of YouTube videos, and it's a personality defect I have where I have to research things into the dirt.

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Oh, I do too.

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Yeah, I get that.

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So, yeah, I, I, I went deep and I was like, no, this is too much, I just need to not think about it so much.

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So I just got the Rokaster Pro 2, which was the current model at that point, and the RODE is the PodMic just because it's around.

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Just keep the stack road, and that way, if there's any issues anywhere, it's one place to contact and license it yeah that's good.

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So what did you?

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So I did a lot of my research with podcastage I'm guessing that's how you say it and because he does a lot of mic and podcast equipment reviews, yeah, and and he's got an awesome setup, which I'm sure is a lot of money, but he talks about post editing and stuff, which I don't do any of that because I just have GarageBand Right, so I don't have.

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I mean, I know there's, I know there's plugins and stuff and there's another podcasting app that you can use for recording.

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I can't remember what it's called, but it has some plugins that you can use and I was thinking that would be really nice because there are some things that cut out some of the noise that can come through, and but I mean this program is like a thousand years old.

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This program is like a thousand dollars.

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So I'm like um that's how I'll stick with what I'm doing.

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Yeah Well, I mean, you're having great success with it so and yeah, honestly, to me it's like the, and I know it's changed a lot.

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But podcasting in its truest sense to me is this it's three dudes in closets.

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Yeah, because it's the only quiet space in the house and but I think that's really like, that's it's roots, that's where it came from, um, and then, you know, it became hip and the, the big mega corporation, started to do it.

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I heard, where did I hear this song?

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It might have been on, uh, on Adam Curry shows, but he was talking about that and maybe it was NPR.

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They had like 23 people working on one show, yeah, and then they laid them all off because it didn't make any money.

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And I'm like, well, no kidding, it doesn't make any money, it's a podcast, yeah.

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I mean you have to have thousands of downloads to make money.

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And cause I was, I was watching a YouTube video.

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Cause I use Buzzsprout and Buzzsprout has a YouTube channel and they have a podcast about podcasting.

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So I was watching one of their YouTube videos and they were talking about where was I going with?

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this Uh, oh, they, yeah, so they were.

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They were talking about, uh, downloads and everything, and they had this woman on that started a true crime podcast, which apparently those do really well.

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So maybe that's just what I need to do if I want to make money, right?

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But kill somebody and then talk about it, right yeah?

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So.

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So she was like, yeah, you know, when I first started out I wasn't getting that many downloads.

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I mean, I think I was only getting like 1500 downloads and, you know, a week.

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And I'm just like what?

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Not that many.

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So because I know that the way like sleep number, bed and better helpcom and all those companies that that are in the business to sponsor podcasts, they want to sponsor podcasts that get thousands and thousands of them downloads because they need thousands and thousands of people to be listening to it to get any kind of, you know, exposure out there.

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And so, you know, usually with those you get paid, like if it's like a 60 second ad at the beginning of an episode, it's like 30 bucks for that 60 second ad, so which you think $30 isn't that much.

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But if you take $30 times 10,000 downloads per episode and if you're doing four a month, that's a lot of money, right, I don't have those kind of downloads.

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No, you really need those big numbers?

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Yeah, Because it'll pay you per Yep.

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So go ahead, Jeff.

00:17:36.307 --> 00:17:37.730
No, no, no, no, no.

00:17:37.730 --> 00:17:38.251
Got nothing in.

00:17:39.020 --> 00:17:43.270
No, I was going to say that I am thankful to be sponsored with my podcast.

00:17:43.711 --> 00:17:43.892
Nice.

00:17:43.892 --> 00:17:45.095
Who sponsors you, by the way?

00:17:45.095 --> 00:17:46.818
Let's shut them out here, might as well.

00:17:47.682 --> 00:17:51.663
It's a company called Subaru of America, you may have heard of it Wow.

00:17:51.663 --> 00:17:53.067
Yeah, it's a little company.

00:17:53.067 --> 00:17:53.828
Ooh, what a flex.

00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:56.342
Now it'll eventually be.

00:17:56.342 --> 00:17:58.990
You know that might be big business in time.

00:17:59.601 --> 00:18:11.275
Well, so they have the Subaru gear store where they have, you know, anything that's branded Subaru and Subaru Motorsports USA, and they so with the, with the gear store.

00:18:11.275 --> 00:18:20.468
They didn't really they don't really do any advertising, and so they thought that that would be a good fit for the podcast, because then that would get the gear store more exposure.

00:18:20.468 --> 00:18:32.028
And so so they started sponsoring me, and this is we're in the second year of them sponsoring me Not two years in a row, but like the second term, if you want to call it and then I have a wheel sponsor that sponsors me.

00:18:32.028 --> 00:18:33.224
So that's, that's been nice.

00:18:33.224 --> 00:18:37.869
And then that woman, jen from eccentric design, she started sponsoring me as well.

00:18:38.932 --> 00:18:39.073
Right.

00:18:39.073 --> 00:18:45.115
I think that's the benefit of being in such a you know well-defined niche, right Because?

00:18:45.115 --> 00:18:47.079
It's not just cars right, it could be anything else.

00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.848
It's not an automotive show per se, it's really not.

00:18:49.848 --> 00:18:56.781
I mean, we talk about Subaru's on the show, but it's, it's more the story behind the person who drives it.

00:18:57.403 --> 00:19:15.231
Yeah, yeah, and in my probably the last 10 episodes or so, I started doing an, a segment called to you know the person behind the account, where I asked personal questions so that, because you chat, you can chat with people online a lot about builds and a little bit about themselves.

00:19:15.231 --> 00:19:29.592
But one of the things that I found that people have messaged me that they say man, I've been chatting with this person for so long and now I get to actually hear what they sound like and learn more about them, and so to hear people say that it's really meaningful, you know it is.

00:19:30.714 --> 00:19:32.400
Definitely is All right.

00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:50.546
And so, with the, the show, maybe let's talk a little bit about how you operate that thing, cause you've got, obviously you're scheduling that you need to do, you've got recording, we've talked a bit about the podcast setup that you have there, so we've, we've covered that, but like, what's You're doing, travel?

00:19:50.546 --> 00:19:52.589
Clearly Right yeah.

00:19:52.890 --> 00:19:55.861
Yeah, I have some done, some travel, yeah.

00:19:55.861 --> 00:20:02.173
So I use note, my notes app to keep track of all of my guests.

00:20:02.173 --> 00:20:04.763
So I have I have.

00:20:04.763 --> 00:20:26.884
So basically have like a subi and you it's kind of like my you know folder off to the side and then within that I have a bunch of different notes that I've put together and that's where I compile all of my individual episodes, where I'll have like the episode number, what the title is going to be, and then all of the information that I'm going to put into my episode notes.

00:20:26.884 --> 00:20:41.710
And then I have a separate one that I have it's just called subi and you podcast guests and that's where I have all of the guests listed that I've recorded with and then the ones that are on my list of ones to get to at some point.

00:20:41.710 --> 00:20:45.650
And I've had some people on the list for a long time.

00:20:45.650 --> 00:20:54.027
I recorded with the guy the other night and well, the one from Monday had been a year that we started talking until I finally got them on.

00:20:54.729 --> 00:20:54.949
Wow.

00:20:55.951 --> 00:20:56.132
Yeah.

00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:58.525
Do you have guests every show or you're having?

00:20:58.525 --> 00:21:00.730
Okay, you have guests every single show.

00:21:02.102 --> 00:21:03.708
Except for I have done.

00:21:03.708 --> 00:21:05.555
I don't remember if I yeah, so I did.

00:21:05.555 --> 00:21:08.605
I think I did it as a bonus episode, but I haven't really.

00:21:08.605 --> 00:21:11.352
I think I've only maybe done two solo episodes.

00:21:11.352 --> 00:21:32.549
But other than that, I mean it's the point and the I guess the goal of the podcast is to interview people within the community or brands, because I've had quite a few brands on the podcast as well that make products for Subaru only and then also for Subaru and other car manufacturers, so that's been fun when I did so.

00:21:32.549 --> 00:21:54.192
When I reached my, I did 100,000 download solo episode and I so that one was a solo episode and I put in a lot of statistics of what's happened over the past 133 episodes and 100,000 downloads, and at the time I had recorded with 19 brands out of 133 episodes.

00:21:54.585 --> 00:21:55.469
So that was that was.

00:21:55.469 --> 00:21:57.611
I didn't even I didn't know that the number was that big.

00:21:57.611 --> 00:21:59.612
So that was interesting for me to find out.

00:21:59.612 --> 00:22:01.451
I knew it was quite a few, but not that many.

00:22:01.924 --> 00:22:02.769
Yeah, it's really impressive.

00:22:02.769 --> 00:22:11.653
And then when you record, how far in advance typically do you record before the show will actually come out?

00:22:11.653 --> 00:22:21.009
Like I'll tell you, our show is usually like a Friday night, but we're more topical, like it's kind of it's not necessarily a new show, but we do covers.

00:22:21.009 --> 00:22:30.571
You know, if it's a big news story, we'll cover it, and so sometimes it's timely in that regard and so we'll usually record like on a Thursday or Friday, and then the show gets published on Monday.

00:22:30.571 --> 00:22:39.397
But sometimes I wish it wasn't as aggressive, yeah that's pretty compact, but we make it work.

00:22:39.684 --> 00:22:42.353
But how do you set that up for what you're doing?

00:22:43.184 --> 00:22:45.991
So I usually I've kind of gone.

00:22:45.991 --> 00:22:47.715
It hasn't been consistent.

00:22:47.715 --> 00:22:50.230
I usually will try.

00:22:50.230 --> 00:22:56.891
So I have my son with me every other week so I try not to record the weeks that he's with me and, just, you know, give him that time.

00:22:56.891 --> 00:23:06.493
So I try to record the weeks he's not with me and I generally would like to record at least two or three episodes a week if I can.

00:23:06.493 --> 00:23:17.311
But at minimum I try to do two, because in that way if somebody cancels on me then I'm like, oh crap, now I don't have an episode for Monday.

00:23:18.153 --> 00:23:18.335
Yeah.

00:23:19.105 --> 00:23:35.067
So I have done as many as four or five, I think, in one week, which was it was tough, but it was also nice because I'm like now I can just kind of sit back and relax and just edit over the next few weeks and not have to worry about that's what we need to do.

00:23:35.449 --> 00:23:36.973
Yeah, and we've talked about that.

00:23:37.164 --> 00:23:40.174
We've talked about, you know, of piling up a couple of them.

00:23:40.325 --> 00:23:55.390
Probably do that coming up in the well, because once you hit like November and you hit the holidays and it's gonna be tough to do, like you know, a Thursday and then drop it on Monday, but I mean, be asleep from Thanksgiving dinner will be try to do a show, yeah.

00:23:57.184 --> 00:24:01.885
Well, yeah, so I tried to get at least a couple of episodes in.

00:24:01.885 --> 00:24:10.867
You know that week that my son isn't with me, so that for the next two weeks I can have episodes to put out and then, when I get to that two week mark, again record a couple more.

00:24:10.867 --> 00:24:14.727
And it's to keep and I have kept that pretty consistent, except for lately.

00:24:14.727 --> 00:24:16.913
It's just been tough to get them in there.

00:24:18.346 --> 00:24:20.292
Is this your primary line of work?

00:24:20.292 --> 00:24:22.667
Is this the only thing that you're doing, or do you have a day job?

00:24:23.204 --> 00:24:25.313
I wish it was but no, it is.

00:24:25.905 --> 00:24:27.150
I do have a full-time job too.

00:24:27.190 --> 00:24:28.031
That's the thing is so.

00:24:28.051 --> 00:24:28.574
Which is what?

00:24:28.574 --> 00:24:28.854
What do?

00:24:28.874 --> 00:24:30.086
you do so.

00:24:30.086 --> 00:24:46.511
I'm a project manager for a small architectural and engineering firm and you know it's a good job but it can be stressful at times because we've got a lot of projects going on and we're always really busy and you know so it's tough because, like when I'm recording in the evenings, that's taking up my own personal time.

00:24:46.511 --> 00:24:49.734
When I'm editing in the morning or in the evenings.

00:24:49.845 --> 00:24:58.127
that's taking up my own personal time, right and you have a long, stressful day at work and then you come home and then you get to jump right back into work.

00:24:58.127 --> 00:24:59.987
Yeah, and it could be.

00:24:59.987 --> 00:25:04.275
It's a lot Sometimes wonder why I do all the side things.

00:25:04.275 --> 00:25:08.391
I have going on and told Jeff it's like, ah, maybe rethink some of the things.

00:25:08.511 --> 00:25:16.068
but I mean, thankfully, I work from home, so the only days that I don't work from home are on Mondays, so like yesterday.

00:25:16.068 --> 00:25:18.726
So we're recording this on Tuesday night and.

00:25:18.726 --> 00:25:26.845
I recorded an episode on a Monday and that was tough because I had set it up to record at seven, I believe, and I got home at like 640.

00:25:26.884 --> 00:25:28.592
So I messaged the guy and I was like hey.

00:25:29.265 --> 00:25:30.210
I need a few more minutes.

00:25:30.210 --> 00:25:31.589
And he was like, yeah, sure, no problem.

00:25:31.589 --> 00:25:38.553
So, yeah, I try to get those in so, like you know, I don't have to like get home from work.

00:25:38.553 --> 00:25:54.230
So I try to schedule them around seven or seven, 30 my time, so that I can have some time to eat and just relax, cause I just because it's five o'clock doesn't mean I'm done with work, cause a lot of times I might work till 535, 45 or six, depending on what we've got going on.

00:25:54.230 --> 00:26:06.069
And then I'm like okay, now only have an hour before I have to record, Then we chat for a while, then we record the episode, which can be anywhere from an hour and 20 minutes to an hour and a half, and then we chat for a while.

00:26:06.069 --> 00:26:07.309
So then there goes two hours.

00:26:07.309 --> 00:26:12.788
So now by the time I'm done, it's like nine o'clock and I'm like now I gotta start thinking about getting ready for bed.

00:26:12.788 --> 00:26:16.989
Yeah, pretty much, even though I don't go to bed that early.

00:26:17.932 --> 00:26:18.051
Right.

00:26:18.051 --> 00:26:32.532
So we had conversations like before just phone calls and things where we were talking and both of us kind of talking about that balance between primary work and inside hustles and things and those I think you mentioned back then you know.

00:26:32.532 --> 00:26:37.933
So you know it's 11 o'clock and you'd just gotten back from a road trip and you had a show to edit and Monday's coming up.

00:26:37.933 --> 00:26:39.609
So you said you had to do it and you did.

00:26:40.050 --> 00:26:43.131
Yeah, Well, yeah, and that's the thing too is my previous job.

00:26:43.131 --> 00:26:51.294
I used to travel, so if I was gonna have to be gone for like two or three days some week, then I had to schedule around that.

00:26:51.294 --> 00:26:59.894
And that was a lot tougher when I was traveling because I would get sometimes we would, you know, I'd get home and I'm like, oh man, I gotta edit.

00:26:59.894 --> 00:27:10.809
I might get home on a Friday or something and like I gotta edit this episode before Monday, but I've got plans for the weekend and so just trying to squeeze everything in is, you know, tough sometimes.

00:27:11.692 --> 00:27:19.047
So let me ask you this, and I'll pose this to both of you, all right, why do you think we do these things Like?

00:27:19.047 --> 00:27:21.013
Because, I mean, we've talked about it.

00:27:21.013 --> 00:27:33.231
It's you've got the grind of work, you've got family life, you got dinner, you need some decompressed time, and then we say you know what I'd like to do in the non-spare time that I have?

00:27:33.231 --> 00:27:37.490
I'd like to do some more work, but I'm not getting paid for, so it's a labor of love.

00:27:37.490 --> 00:27:40.753
I mean, there's no, no considerable income.

00:27:40.753 --> 00:27:42.328
I speak for Jeff and I.

00:27:42.328 --> 00:27:44.733
Raffiato, I don't know your situation, but yeah.

00:27:44.904 --> 00:27:47.148
You said it wasn't your full-time job, so we'll go with that.

00:27:47.148 --> 00:27:52.574
So what drives you to do the show?

00:27:52.574 --> 00:27:54.308
You asking me, or Jeff?

00:27:54.308 --> 00:27:56.892
I know Jeff, he just likes to see my face.

00:27:57.266 --> 00:27:58.211
I'm more curious about yours.

00:27:58.211 --> 00:27:59.852
This is my social club.

00:28:00.948 --> 00:28:01.388
This is.

00:28:01.750 --> 00:28:04.528
Tom's basically the only friend I have, except for Steve.

00:28:04.528 --> 00:28:14.192
Steve, you're my friend too, but Tom's, tom's like I said, I live in Jeffrey Dahmer's basement.

00:28:14.192 --> 00:28:15.390
That's where I'm at right now.

00:28:15.390 --> 00:28:18.374
There's not much going on if I'm not out collecting heads.

00:28:18.374 --> 00:28:25.199
So yeah, I do it for the fun of it.

00:28:25.199 --> 00:28:27.653
I really this is an avocation for me.

00:28:27.653 --> 00:28:31.048
I have a few of these, actually A few live-in theaters.

00:28:31.611 --> 00:28:32.473
No, no, no, no.

00:28:32.473 --> 00:28:41.593
Oh, I was on the board of a local theater for up until June of this year, but also I do a lot of theater work.

00:28:41.593 --> 00:28:49.690
In fact, this week, starting on Thursday evening, we're in tech for a readers theater production that's gonna run on the weekend.

00:28:49.690 --> 00:28:52.050
So I've got tech and then I've got four shows.

00:28:52.050 --> 00:28:56.373
So that's obviously another outlet.

00:28:56.373 --> 00:29:00.112
But this is to me, this is creative, it's a creative outlet.

00:29:00.112 --> 00:29:04.852
And, for the record, I mean Tom does most of the late work on this.

00:29:04.852 --> 00:29:06.791
He does the hard work.

00:29:06.791 --> 00:29:21.817
I show up and try to be funny Rarely am I, but I try to be, try to add some 15-inch humor into this conversation.

00:29:22.498 --> 00:29:25.609
There, it is 35 minutes in.

00:29:25.609 --> 00:29:27.508
That's right, that's a record for us.

00:29:27.508 --> 00:29:29.327
Yeah, well, it is.

00:29:31.108 --> 00:29:52.772
So for me this is a fun thing to do, and the only thing that I do after this is Tom does whatever editing there is, and usually it's pretty much straight from tape to live, and then I listen to it to make sure that there's nothing to egregious in it before we send it out.

00:29:52.772 --> 00:29:56.511
So that's kind of my piece, and I can do that while I'm washing dishes.

00:29:57.509 --> 00:30:00.550
Yeah, yeah, for me again.

00:30:00.550 --> 00:30:07.954
I just I bought the Subaru because I'd been wanting a Subaru Cross Trek for a long time, for at least five years.

00:30:07.954 --> 00:30:14.713
So when I bought it I was just thinking, hey, I have this car that has the ability to go off road.

00:30:14.713 --> 00:30:20.115
I didn't know how capable it was, but I mean I'd watched some YouTube videos so I knew it was pretty capable.

00:30:20.115 --> 00:30:35.069
But I'm also watching these YouTube videos, thinking I have nothing like that around where I am, but when we have our annual family reunion there's some county roads up there that might be fun, and that was like what I was thinking would be at the extent of it.

00:30:35.069 --> 00:30:43.993
So when I started connecting with all these people and seeing their passion, then my passion grew seeing what they were doing and connecting with people.

00:30:43.993 --> 00:31:02.113
And then so when I started, when I had the idea to do the podcast to give because it's really to give people a place to share about their build and their journey and about themselves, and because the last question that I asked is like how is owning a Subaru change your life?

00:31:02.113 --> 00:31:04.392
And so that's where we really get into.

00:31:04.392 --> 00:31:06.230
It's more than just about a car.

00:31:07.585 --> 00:31:10.094
But for me, I enjoy connecting with people.

00:31:10.094 --> 00:31:18.451
I enjoy helping people to share their stories and I didn't know when I first started it that I was going to get sponsored.

00:31:18.451 --> 00:31:24.249
I didn't know that Subaru of America was going to reach out to me and say, hey, we've got some opportunities we want to run by you.

00:31:24.249 --> 00:31:27.855
I didn't know that I would be going out to all these events.

00:31:27.855 --> 00:31:34.352
I didn't even know about the Subifest events, I didn't know about Winterfest, I didn't know, I mean, there was so much I didn't know about Subaru.

00:31:34.352 --> 00:31:41.272
So for me, I enjoy doing it to just it's kind of my way to be a part of the community.

00:31:41.272 --> 00:31:55.792
But also the messages that I get from people is that's a really big part of what helps me keep going, as people reaching out and saying thank you for doing this, keep doing it, we love it and we look forward to it every Monday.

00:31:56.585 --> 00:31:58.030
Yeah, I think they've definitely made.

00:31:58.030 --> 00:32:04.650
You've made a connection with them and, through extension, they've made more connections into the community, I think.

00:32:05.325 --> 00:32:11.855
Yeah, because I've had so many people say that it's helped connect the community in a way that has never been there before.

00:32:11.855 --> 00:32:26.153
And then I've had people say, oh man, I've been looking for a Subaru podcast for a long time and I just Googled and I came across yours or somebody might see it in somebody's stories and be like, oh, that's how I came across the podcast.

00:32:26.153 --> 00:32:32.512
And then there's people that have I've never listened to a podcast ever in my life and this is the only one that I listen to.

00:32:32.512 --> 00:32:34.951
Or I've never listened to a podcast.

00:32:34.951 --> 00:32:40.634
I listened to this one and now I've started listening to some other ones too, because I like the platform and I like the concept of it.

00:32:41.066 --> 00:32:52.375
Right, yeah, and I think what's interesting about Subarus in general is it really is people that have Subarus, or tend to have Subarus, tend to be people that are outside a lot.

00:32:52.375 --> 00:32:55.232
They're camping.

00:32:55.232 --> 00:32:59.973
I don't want to generalize too much, but you don't hear about the Buick podcast.

00:32:59.973 --> 00:33:03.393
There might be, but not, but not Delta 88.

00:33:03.393 --> 00:33:10.237
Got my Delta 88 and we're ready to go, boys.

00:33:10.464 --> 00:33:13.933
My mom had a Delta 88.

00:33:13.933 --> 00:33:14.976
That was a thing.

00:33:15.424 --> 00:33:22.657
It definitely was a thing, but it definitely seems like a very connected community.

00:33:22.657 --> 00:33:34.332
In fact, when Tom first started doing his Instagram, I was at that time driving a Subaru my son's driving that one now, as we said earlier.

00:33:34.332 --> 00:33:49.038
But the growth of his Instagram was insane to me, like some teeny tiny little Instagram that he just put up because he likes Subarus On a whim.

00:33:49.038 --> 00:33:51.791
Yeah, it was just kind of a fun thing, and how many people do you have following that now?

00:33:51.791 --> 00:33:52.808
I already asked that, I think.

00:33:54.768 --> 00:34:04.462
About 40,000, a little over that, but it's gotten pretty stagnated of late because of the platform changes Like yeah.

00:34:04.563 --> 00:34:04.744
Instagram.

00:34:04.945 --> 00:34:09.574
I think Rafael mentioned it earlier, but like with the reels and video and things like that.

00:34:10.849 --> 00:34:11.751
Instagram is trying to be.

00:34:13.369 --> 00:34:25.641
They want to be TikTok, because TikTok's eating their lunch which is funny, though and Twitter's, which is their so-called Twitter thing, has actually become a pretty good photo-sharing platform.

00:34:25.641 --> 00:34:33.900
Oh nice, and which makes sense when you think about it, because when you join threads, you join with your Instagram account.

00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:42.405
So if you already have the Instagram account, that kind of leads to think, well, you're probably like photography, at least back in the day.

00:34:42.405 --> 00:34:42.788
I don't know.

00:34:42.788 --> 00:34:48.451
I mean, you know, maybe people just joined for reels and stuff now, but so it's actually become pretty good for that.

00:34:48.451 --> 00:34:52.769
But I'm sure video won't take it over eventually as well.

00:34:53.701 --> 00:35:02.791
Yeah, and when they started coming, when people started doing reels, I was like I love doing photos, I am not gonna do reels, and now I do a lot of reels.

00:35:02.791 --> 00:35:03.742
But.

00:35:03.742 --> 00:35:13.820
But I'm starting to do the reels because I've found ways to get creative with it and I've started using this app called cap cut, and cap cut is really fun to put stuff together.

00:35:13.820 --> 00:35:15.603
So I've just I've been having fun with it.

00:35:15.603 --> 00:35:17.668
Nice, so I enjoy doing reels now.

00:35:17.969 --> 00:35:19.313
It's definitely the reason to do it.

00:35:20.601 --> 00:35:22.007
Yeah, so with your.

00:35:22.628 --> 00:35:23.190
I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:35:23.311 --> 00:35:26.927
Yeah, no, I just I was gonna say real quick because, like I, so I have a.

00:35:26.927 --> 00:35:32.987
I have a patreon account also, so I have patrons that you know sign up and help support the podcast.

00:35:32.987 --> 00:35:52.239
And we were having a chat the other night and we were talking about posting and how you know we've there were several of us that were saying that we are just gonna post whenever we want to and not try to, you know, post on a regular schedule or post just a post, and so I'm kind of getting more like that with my car account.

00:35:53.184 --> 00:36:03.297
But I have a wheel sponsor, so we have wheel Wednesday, so I have to make sure and try to come up with something to post for that right, and but other than that, you know I just in living in Houston.

00:36:03.297 --> 00:36:10.373
There's not much here, so it gets kind of boring at times and I just feel like I don't have much content to post need to head down to Nolence.

00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.231
Urban drive around downtown Houston and stuff.

00:36:14.612 --> 00:36:15.175
Yeah.

00:36:15.175 --> 00:36:25.014
Yeah, I mean there's stuff here, but like the other, I mean last week it rained, so Thursday night I met up with some people and I went mutting and it was so much fun.

00:36:25.014 --> 00:36:27.264
I mean but but we have.

00:36:27.264 --> 00:36:47.099
So we have a lot of Private land in Texas, so there's very few spots that we can find, and there's this one spot that's maybe like 200 feet long in this little grassy area and just go around Around the same spot but I mean I was drifting through this turn and it was so much fun.

00:36:47.201 --> 00:36:50.820
If you look at my reels now, well, my stories on Pearl's page.

00:36:50.820 --> 00:36:56.552
I did a little clip of it and I mean I just I put there I could do this all day and I literally could have.

00:36:56.552 --> 00:36:57.784
I mean it was so much fun.

00:36:57.784 --> 00:36:59.184
But funny.

00:36:59.184 --> 00:37:05.724
So Every once in a while, like if we get some rain and some mud and we can go out and have some fun, then then there's some content.

00:37:06.067 --> 00:37:09.400
Yeah, and then you see places like you know, the Pacific Northwest.

00:37:10.001 --> 00:37:14.081
And they suck yeah New.

00:37:14.121 --> 00:37:14.925
York, where I'm at.

00:37:15.324 --> 00:37:17.090
Yeah you're in a beautiful area too.

00:37:17.090 --> 00:37:17.811
I mean it's nice where.

00:37:17.831 --> 00:37:18.211
I'm at too.

00:37:18.211 --> 00:37:22.280
I mean we're in the valley here, but we've got mountain ranges both sides.

00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.077
I mean two hours and I'm pretty deep in country in West Virginia, which you know pretty place.

00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.025
Yeah, I mean, there's just no coverage shaft post later.

00:37:30.465 --> 00:37:42.867
Yeah, I mean, see, and I, when I discovered mountains going out to Colorado for work years ago, I fell in love with mountains, and Mountains are so far from where we are.

00:37:42.867 --> 00:37:46.780
I mean it's to get into any kind of mountains that are decent.

00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:48.505
I mean it's like a 15-hour drive.

00:37:48.505 --> 00:37:52.219
We've got some stuff out in West Texas and there's some like a bit.

00:37:52.219 --> 00:38:00.715
There's a big canyon, there's Palo Duro Canyon out there, which is Apparently it's referred to the as the Grand Canyon of Texas and it's beautiful.

00:38:00.715 --> 00:38:02.539
But I love mountains.

00:38:02.539 --> 00:38:04.780
I mean I would, I could be in mountains every day.

00:38:05.764 --> 00:38:11.092
Jeff is yeah, I'm in mountains and I actually, and I know the feel.

00:38:11.092 --> 00:38:13.679
I lived in East Texas for three and a half years.

00:38:14.221 --> 00:38:18.954
Oh, we're at up by Tyler, okay so you know where alto is, or do you remember?

00:38:19.335 --> 00:38:21.099
I don't remember out now.

00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:26.313
Okay, I don't think it's too far from Tyler, but that's where a lot of my family is from is from alto.

00:38:26.641 --> 00:38:26.983
Got it.

00:38:27.507 --> 00:38:36.219
every time I hear of Tyler Texas, I think of the Tote's oh yeah, I think of the roses, because it's the rose capital of Texas as well.

00:38:36.922 --> 00:38:37.782
So they grow the.

00:38:37.824 --> 00:38:38.826
Tyler Rose in.

00:38:38.865 --> 00:38:40.329
Texas geography lesson for today.

00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:41.952
There you go, you got your special thing.

00:38:41.952 --> 00:38:45.992
But I moved there from California and, man, I was lost.

00:38:45.992 --> 00:38:58.467
I, you know, I used to to spend my summers in the Sierra and and it was humid and oh yeah, and the stuff that they called mountains, it was like.

00:38:58.666 --> 00:38:58.947
Hills.

00:38:59.329 --> 00:39:01.594
That's not even a hill pal, it's an overpass.

00:39:03.882 --> 00:39:07.280
That's a, you know, a small uphill climb.

00:39:08.061 --> 00:39:09.063
Yeah, I'm talking about.

00:39:09.483 --> 00:39:15.123
Oakland Hills were you know five times what what East Texas had.

00:39:15.123 --> 00:39:24.947
So I feel you that's in Houston's particularly flat, that whole area is not, there's not a, there's not a hill around and, like you said, not not anything particularly close.

00:39:24.947 --> 00:39:26.931
That's easy to get to.

00:39:26.931 --> 00:39:29.346
So so that's interesting.

00:39:29.346 --> 00:39:31.010
So you doing little mud runs.

00:39:31.452 --> 00:39:31.934
Well y'all.

00:39:31.934 --> 00:39:35.083
So you asked me about my job earlier, and then you brought up Tyler.

00:39:35.083 --> 00:39:38.391
We're actually working on three projects in Tyler right now.

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.530
Interesting, yeah, there you go Nice tie in there too.

00:39:43.070 --> 00:39:45.344
Yeah, I'm getting better at that.

00:39:45.344 --> 00:39:47.905
Yeah, my own podcast I'll.

00:39:47.905 --> 00:39:55.128
Somebody will say something and it'll spark a question that's coming up and I'll use whatever they said to tie in that next question.

00:39:55.630 --> 00:39:59.266
Right, good, yes, Turn it into a radio man and you are so.

00:39:59.447 --> 00:40:14.280
So that's the one thing that I didn't mention is, whenever I have because I have guests, I always come up with questions and I send the questions out to my guests ahead of time so that they can Look them over, so they can be more prepared for the episode too, because I asked some deep questions sometimes.

00:40:14.862 --> 00:40:16.567
So what you're saying is we sucker punched you.

00:40:16.567 --> 00:40:17.329
Is that the deal?

00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:20.400
No, no, you're here with no, no questions ahead of time.

00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.606
So you know I like this.

00:40:22.188 --> 00:40:24.400
It's free for yeah, I like the free form.

00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:25.242
I mean I've done that.

00:40:25.242 --> 00:40:34.326
I've done a couple of episodes freeform like that and Early on, so I wasn't as prepared mentally, like I didn't have it all together so but I mean it still turned out well.

00:40:34.326 --> 00:40:37.195
But I yeah it's.

00:40:37.195 --> 00:40:45.211
I have found that I've been listening to several podcasts recently that have co-hosts and I really love the co-host.

00:40:45.211 --> 00:40:48.565
Like I would love to do another Podcast with a co-host.

00:40:48.565 --> 00:40:49.146
That'd be.

00:40:49.146 --> 00:40:50.351
I think that'd be a lot of fun.

00:40:51.141 --> 00:40:53.306
Yeah, that makes this, I will say, easier for us.

00:40:53.306 --> 00:41:11.947
You know a little little in Inside baseball but we, speaking of Houston, one again tonight, by the way Thank, maybe they're playing now, I don't know but the yeah, there's something to be said for having two of us.

00:41:11.947 --> 00:41:13.771
So you know, there's.

00:41:13.771 --> 00:41:14.492
There's that.

00:41:14.492 --> 00:41:17.204
First of all, there's rapport that Tom and I have.

00:41:17.204 --> 00:41:20.072
You know that we've had pretty much since we became friends.

00:41:20.072 --> 00:41:23.130
I would say, you know, yeah, kind of had that little, that little back-and-forth going on.

00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:37.199
But it definitely makes a difference when you're playing off of each other and and, yeah, I could, I could see where it's hard if you're the one that's driving the conversation always, yeah, that that can be.

00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.086
I'm sure that can be challenging.

00:41:39.789 --> 00:41:52.900
Yeah, I mean there's there's times where I mean, most of the time, we get into pretty good conversation because the questions will spark Conversation, and then, you know, I don't stick to just my questions because somebody will say something and it'll spark another question.

00:41:52.900 --> 00:41:58.233
And I mean, like the one I recorded last night, we got into all kinds of conversations.

00:41:58.233 --> 00:42:03.731
I asked a bunch of different questions and I think I'd only asked like two of my actual questions.

00:42:03.731 --> 00:42:15.733
But then I've had people where I'll ask them a question and then they give a very brief response and there's no conversation around the question and there could have been so much more conversation.

00:42:15.733 --> 00:42:22.780
So though, I asked them a question and they'll be like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then I'm like thinking that's it.

00:42:24.106 --> 00:42:31.070
And then there's this awkward silence for a while and then I'm like thinking okay, I guess I'm going to the next question, so, and then it's just it's.

00:42:31.070 --> 00:42:31.532
I've.

00:42:31.532 --> 00:42:41.173
I think I've had two episodes only out of 142, which isn't bad, where it was like that, where I'm just like this is so painful, like I'm not even really enjoying this that much.

00:42:41.173 --> 00:42:46.371
Yeah, it's a no conversation, yeah, well, I go and cry and drink.

00:42:49.061 --> 00:42:54.311
Yeah, it's a If you're the one that's always pushing something and you don't have people.

00:42:54.311 --> 00:43:04.182
You know this is improv to some extent, so it's, you know, yes and yes and yes, and you know you're you're you're leaning into the conversation, trying to.

00:43:04.182 --> 00:43:05.949
Nobody likes dead air.

00:43:07.940 --> 00:43:24.527
That's where editing comes in, yeah well, that's, that is true, editing does make up for dead air and, you know, hacking a lung out or something like that, but it's If it's, if there is no back and forth with a guest, and you see then why.

00:43:24.527 --> 00:43:31.831
You know, guys like God rest his soul, dynamists and these people who had, you know, they had people cackling in the background all the time too.

00:43:31.831 --> 00:43:38.744
You know there's somebody always bringing something in, so there's, so there's Something, something going on there.

00:43:38.744 --> 00:43:44.429
But if you're the one that's running the show and you've got a guess, it's going yes, yeah, mm-hmm.

00:43:44.429 --> 00:43:46.744
Oh, I do that.

00:43:46.744 --> 00:43:50.480
Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, that doesn't want to say anything.

00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:56.172
It becomes difficult to uh, you know, to do that, to do the job for sure.

00:43:56.822 --> 00:44:06.019
Well, I mentioned editing and you had asked me about editing earlier, tom, but so I use garage band to record into garage band and then that's where I do all of my editing.

00:44:06.181 --> 00:44:18.210
So all the brain farts and the dead air and the you know, Coughs or whatever, or the repetitive words, then I'll go through and cut that out.

00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:22.300
So sometimes editing, I've had people ask me like, well, how long does editing take?

00:44:22.300 --> 00:44:29.000
I said, well, at least as long as the actual episode plus However long it takes me to get all the extra stuff out of there.

00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:43.487
So sometimes if it's an hour and a half episode, it could take me as long as three or four hours Just to yeah, it takes me probably 90 minutes for like, if we do an hour Episode yeah, which is what we try to keep it to.

00:44:43.648 --> 00:44:45.271
We try to not get it past.

00:44:45.271 --> 00:44:50.271
You know, right now, you know, steve is done with the gym for the day, and so he's uh.

00:44:50.271 --> 00:44:56.568
He's saving the rest of it Maros Gym trip, you know.

00:44:56.568 --> 00:45:01.469
So we try to keep it in that little window, but have you have you done any editing like this garage band?

00:45:01.510 --> 00:45:04.900
do this where you can edit in like one in a quarter, one and a half speed.

00:45:06.443 --> 00:45:07.985
I don't know, I've never looked at that.

00:45:08.467 --> 00:45:19.300
Yeah, so I edit with an app on the iPad called ferrite that I heard some people recommend and it think it goes up maybe even to 2x, and I tried it.

00:45:19.300 --> 00:45:20.143
I couldn't do it.

00:45:20.143 --> 00:45:23.623
I was like no, no, no, no, no, that's, that's yeah for one.

00:45:23.623 --> 00:45:33.632
I haven't done it long enough to be that comfortable just with the process again, and so I was like, yeah, but so that's why it takes 90 minutes to do the, to do the thing, sometimes longer.

00:45:33.632 --> 00:45:43.873
I did one I don't know Jeff three, three episodes, four episodes ago, where I got about 40 minutes into it and then I totally botched the edit and start over.

00:45:45.981 --> 00:45:46.784
Are you kidding?

00:45:46.784 --> 00:45:51.103
And so that was a long weekend, but so you use garage.

00:45:51.103 --> 00:45:57.014
Why I say Tom has the painful yeah and editing what you mentioned cap, cut and notes.

00:45:57.014 --> 00:46:00.728
Are there any other apps that you kind of lean on for you?

00:46:00.728 --> 00:46:02.472
Just probably just Google for your calendar.

00:46:02.472 --> 00:46:09.356
I know you've got a Gmail address and stuff, but I actually, I mean, I don't really.

00:46:09.539 --> 00:46:16.728
Yeah, I mean I use a calendar sometimes, like I use Google calendar to Just remind myself that I have an episode coming up.

00:46:16.728 --> 00:46:22.239
But I so what I do in my notes app is I'm in, I'm in there, a lot is.

00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:40.500
I kind of just know that I have an episode coming up, but in the episode or in my notes app, where I have all the guests listed, listed, I will put the the episode number, their Instagram handle, their name, what date I'm recording and at what time, their email address and then when I'm gonna release the episode.

00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:42.326
So that's the information I have for each one of them.

00:46:42.827 --> 00:46:45.842
Gotcha, yeah, yeah, I like it.

00:46:46.525 --> 00:46:48.170
Yeah, and I took a.

00:46:48.170 --> 00:46:52.556
I took a podcast training course a long time ago.

00:46:52.556 --> 00:46:54.103
As I mentioned, I was.

00:46:54.103 --> 00:47:04.788
I did a vegan podcast the vegan theme podcast before this, and there were some people that I had connected with and they were trying to roll out like this podcast training program.

00:47:04.788 --> 00:47:07.653
And they reached out to me because we had been communicating a lot.

00:47:07.653 --> 00:47:16.434
And they reached out, said hey, would you like to be part of this like pilot program, and we'll give you like a highly discounted rate.

00:47:16.434 --> 00:47:17.860
And I said sure.

00:47:18.663 --> 00:47:22.599
So I ended up taking the class and they were using garage band.

00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:31.186
But at the time I had an HP and I was like I don't know how to use audacity or anything else really, and I'm learning what to do through garage band.

00:47:31.186 --> 00:47:32.331
I'm not sure what to do with it.

00:47:32.331 --> 00:47:34.159
I'm just gonna go back to the video and I'm learning what to do through garage band.

00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:43.342
So I got a pretty good amount back in my taxes right after that and it was right.

00:47:43.342 --> 00:47:48.927
Before I started the other podcast, my first podcast, and I'd been wanting a Mac forever.

00:47:48.927 --> 00:47:53.329
I used to work at CompUSA way back in the day and my best friend was like the.

00:47:53.369 --> 00:48:09.907
Mac person there at CompUSA and so we had one of the back areas where all the Macs were and she was always back there talking to people and she had Macs at home and I've always been curious about them.

00:48:09.907 --> 00:48:17.905
But even back then I don't even think I had my own computer, but I just had this fascination with Macs because they were different and I've always been fascinated with things that were different.

00:48:17.905 --> 00:48:22.971
So I get my tax return and I'm like I'm getting a Macbook.

00:48:22.971 --> 00:48:30.949
So I got a Macbook Pro and that was how that started and I was like, thank goodness, I have something that I can use.

00:48:30.949 --> 00:48:33.728
You know, I've got GarageBand now, so I'm happy.

00:48:33.728 --> 00:48:38.023
But I also have this awesome computer that I know is going to last a really long time and perform well.

00:48:38.023 --> 00:48:38.764
It will.

00:48:38.764 --> 00:48:41.481
Oh yeah, now I actually upgraded to.

00:48:41.481 --> 00:48:51.612
I don't know, it might be downgraded, but I gave my son my Macbook Pro and I got a Macbook Air with the M2 chip because I wanted that was an upgrade.

00:48:52.072 --> 00:48:57.128
Yeah, so I wanted my other Mac.

00:48:57.128 --> 00:48:59.552
The fans kept turning on with my other.

00:48:59.572 --> 00:48:59.992
Macbook.

00:48:59.992 --> 00:49:07.190
Oh yeah, and it was so loud and my mic could hear the fans, so you want to know how I operate.

00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:08.786
So this is one of the things that I used to do.

00:49:08.786 --> 00:49:25.349
I have these big rectangular ice packs that are about the same shape as the Macbook, so I would get a towel and I would put it over the ice pack and then put my Macbook on top of the ice pack so that it would keep it cool.

00:49:25.349 --> 00:49:29.166
And it worked a lot of times, except for the two times.

00:49:29.166 --> 00:49:43.226
There was one night that I was like, okay, I'm done recording, I could go to the bathroom, I could do some other stuff, and I left my Macbook sitting on top of the ice pack all night long and I came back into my closet the next morning.

00:49:43.226 --> 00:49:45.043
Oh my God.

00:49:47.123 --> 00:49:53.347
There was condensation all over the keyboard and I was like, oh God, no, this is not happening.

00:49:53.347 --> 00:49:57.541
So I immediately wiped it off, of course.

00:49:57.541 --> 00:50:04.244
I took it off the ice pack and I just let it sit out and kind of air out and it you know.

00:50:04.244 --> 00:50:08.666
So it was still working and then, like I think it was like a couple of days later it wouldn't turn on.

00:50:09.501 --> 00:50:11.827
And I was like oh God, no no, no, no.

00:50:11.907 --> 00:50:12.769
This cannot be happening.

00:50:12.769 --> 00:50:23.686
So I forgot what I did, but I just closed it, let it sit there for a while, opened it back up and it finally started working again, and it was working fine after that.

00:50:23.686 --> 00:50:25.150
That's close.

00:50:25.530 --> 00:50:25.710
Yeah.

00:50:26.030 --> 00:50:29.869
Yeah, and then I did it again, but I caught it a little bit sooner than the last time.

00:50:29.869 --> 00:50:32.146
It only been sitting there for like a couple of hours.

00:50:32.146 --> 00:50:41.744
So, yeah, when I found out and then again I was doing some research when I found out that the MacBook Air didn't have fans I'm like I've got to get one.

00:50:41.744 --> 00:50:44.905
It's smaller, it's more portable, it's powerful.

00:50:44.925 --> 00:50:46.009
Battery lasts forever.

00:50:46.530 --> 00:50:49.284
Yeah, and it's like I'm not doing a bunch of crazy.

00:50:49.284 --> 00:50:51.791
You know video stuff or anything.

00:50:51.791 --> 00:50:54.423
Just you know it's a computer.

00:50:54.423 --> 00:51:00.769
Everybody needs a computer pretty much these days and it's going to do what I need it to do, and so you know.

00:51:00.769 --> 00:51:10.146
Now my son wants a MacBook Air because he's got the MacBook Pro and he's like the fans are so loud, yeah, but I mean, you know I was thankful to be able to give him a MacBook at 16.

00:51:10.967 --> 00:51:12.311
No doubt, yeah, yeah.

00:51:12.311 --> 00:51:15.110
So did you get the 13?

00:51:15.130 --> 00:51:15.853
inch MacBook Air.

00:51:15.853 --> 00:51:25.324
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that screen's big enough for me, and my girlfriend has a MacBook Pro with a 17 inch screen or maybe the 15 inch?

00:51:25.324 --> 00:51:26.085
What do they have?

00:51:26.085 --> 00:51:26.847
15 or 16.

00:51:26.867 --> 00:51:27.688
These days 15.

00:51:27.688 --> 00:51:28.550
The new one's, 16.

00:51:28.550 --> 00:51:29.210
16 MacBook Air.

00:51:29.210 --> 00:51:29.452
Okay.

00:51:31.300 --> 00:51:33.648
So maybe yeah, so hers must be, at least, I guess, the 15.

00:51:33.648 --> 00:51:37.231
But she was like your MacBook is so small, like how can you stand it?

00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:38.161
I'm like.

00:51:38.242 --> 00:51:38.643
I love it.

00:51:38.722 --> 00:51:41.389
It's fine, it's light, it's easy to carry around.

00:51:42.130 --> 00:51:42.952
It is so light.

00:51:43.492 --> 00:51:45.266
Yeah, and the screen is plenty big for me.

00:51:45.266 --> 00:51:49.246
I don't need anything bigger, but it'd be nice to have a separate screen though.

00:51:49.648 --> 00:51:55.246
Yeah, we deployed a bunch of those MacBook Airs to our students that work this fall, so 800 and a couple Nice.

00:51:55.246 --> 00:51:58.670
So we've been using one for six months.

00:51:58.670 --> 00:52:01.588
No, no, probably now it's closer to nine or 10.

00:52:01.588 --> 00:52:04.425
But yeah, it's been great Like no heat issues?

00:52:04.445 --> 00:52:10.610
Yeah, obviously no fans, because it doesn't have one, but it doesn't need more mop to really even kick the fan on if it did.

00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:33.445
Now my personal one's the 16 inch MacBook Pro, because I like the bigger screen, but to be honest, I don't use it that much Like I've got a Mac mini that's on my desk or I've got an external display hooked up to that I usually use that or the iPad I have, but I think if the 15 inch MacBook Pro or, I'm sorry, the 15 inch MacBook Air would have been available when I was buying, I would have gotten that instead.

00:52:33.847 --> 00:52:34.047
Yeah.

00:52:35.068 --> 00:52:36.251
But it wasn't.

00:52:36.251 --> 00:52:40.628
Yeah, my son, my son's my old MacBook Pro.

00:52:40.628 --> 00:52:44.786
Now on the right side of the screen it's got some lines going up and down on it.

00:52:44.786 --> 00:52:46.391
I don't know what I mean.

00:52:46.391 --> 00:52:55.579
He says he didn't drop it, but I know he's had it in his backpack and he's dropped his backpack down kind of hard a few times, so that may have been a cause of this?

00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:56.844
Yeah, those are so thin.

00:52:56.844 --> 00:53:01.675
Like they're I won't say delicate necessarily, but they're not.

00:53:01.675 --> 00:53:05.929
There's not a lot of leeway there for the screen to kind of get pressed on something, but yeah.

00:53:07.121 --> 00:53:15.061
So I'm thinking about getting seen if I don't know if they would give me anything for it because of that, but seeing if I can do like a trade in what year is?

00:53:15.061 --> 00:53:15.786
It.

00:53:15.786 --> 00:53:20.110
It's a 2016, I think, or 17 maybe.

00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.266
I mean it still works fine, but yeah, they might throw you a couple of bucks.

00:53:24.266 --> 00:53:27.384
I wonder that that seems like it's at the border of.

00:53:27.384 --> 00:53:29.706
Is that still Intel processors in that one?

00:53:29.706 --> 00:53:34.775
I think so, yeah, yeah, so those things are vintage.

00:53:34.815 --> 00:53:41.467
Yeah, had the scissor or the butterfly keyboard too, so the keyboards were real problematic.

00:53:41.467 --> 00:53:43.985
You haven't had any keyboard problems with it since you've had it.

00:53:44.487 --> 00:53:49.545
No Good, and it had the little slide bar on it too, right Touch bar thing.

00:53:49.684 --> 00:53:50.405
Yeah, touch bar.

00:53:50.405 --> 00:53:53.751
Yeah, yep iPhone, I'm assuming.

00:53:53.751 --> 00:53:54.913
Yeah, I have.

00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:58.965
So I've kind of been behind on the iPhones.

00:53:58.965 --> 00:54:05.148
But I had an iPhone SE for a while and then what was the one that they came out with?

00:54:05.148 --> 00:54:09.166
That was like the 10X or something like that was a little bit bigger.

00:54:09.166 --> 00:54:21.329
It was kind of like an off model that they had for a while I think I can't remember, but it was when the 10 came out and it was like a 10X and I was like this is a little too big for me.

00:54:21.329 --> 00:54:33.751
So I went back down to the SE and then, about six months ago or more, I actually went down because it's small, a little bit smaller, but I went to the iPhone 13 mini.

00:54:34.681 --> 00:54:36.284
And I really like it a lot.

00:54:36.304 --> 00:54:38.027
It fits in my hands.

00:54:38.027 --> 00:54:39.690
Better it fits in my hands, better they don't make it anymore.

00:54:40.311 --> 00:54:40.831
Do what yeah?

00:54:41.393 --> 00:54:42.735
They're not making it anymore.

00:54:43.137 --> 00:54:44.960
Yeah, Well, not the 13, right.

00:54:46.123 --> 00:54:47.748
I think the mini has a plastic hole.

00:54:47.748 --> 00:54:49.385
Yeah, I think it's a little.

00:54:50.019 --> 00:54:56.648
And I just I don't know if you listened to the last show or our last show, but I I listened to about half of it, I think maybe.

00:54:56.648 --> 00:54:58.186
No, so that's all we're good for.

00:54:59.061 --> 00:54:59.965
Hey, you're not wrong.

00:55:03.686 --> 00:55:05.530
Yeah, I couldn't get past the 15 inches though.

00:55:12.387 --> 00:55:20.150
So I have a new 15 and I had the 13 before that and I love the 15.

00:55:20.150 --> 00:55:23.969
I'm happy with the cameras in it, but I probably didn't need to upgrade.

00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:24.269
Yeah.

00:55:26.423 --> 00:55:27.869
That's what we said in the last show.

00:55:28.019 --> 00:55:32.148
Yeah, you were saying I don't need to get a thousand dollar camera every two years.

00:55:32.148 --> 00:55:33.289
No right, I don't.

00:55:34.132 --> 00:55:34.652
I really don't.

00:55:34.652 --> 00:55:36.344
I did listen to the first half.

00:55:36.443 --> 00:55:38.806
He did, I was complaining about the watch.

00:55:39.621 --> 00:55:40.264
Oh, that's something.

00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:42.788
I'd have to go finish it up now.

00:55:42.788 --> 00:55:51.293
Yeah, no, but I mean I like the 13 mini because it's like I just I don't like a big giant phone.

00:55:51.293 --> 00:56:02.672
I had one that was a little bit bigger before and I just, like you know, I'm like stretching my thumb way up, you know, and then trying to do the reachable or whatever, and or touch ability.

00:56:02.672 --> 00:56:05.688
I can't remember what it's called, but yeah, I know them.

00:56:05.688 --> 00:56:08.128
I know my phone can do a lot more than I use it for.

00:56:09.019 --> 00:56:09.842
It's my go-to camera.

00:56:09.842 --> 00:56:10.706
That's really what it is.

00:56:10.706 --> 00:56:16.333
And then you know, yeah, when I have to answer Tom's texts about how crappy is watch OS is yeah those.

00:56:20.788 --> 00:56:29.601
I have an old Apple watch I think it's the third or something, I can't remember but I bought it bought it mainly and it doesn't have it just has wifi.

00:56:29.601 --> 00:56:31.230
It doesn't have cellular.

00:56:31.230 --> 00:56:50.849
Because I'm like I'm not I know I'm not going to use it that much, but I bought it mostly for I bought it one, because there was a lot of times when I was like in a noisy place or something and I'm like if I got a text message I didn't feel that somebody texted me, or if somebody was calling me, I was like it'd be nice to know if somebody's texting me or calling me, because then I could just see it on my watch.

00:56:50.849 --> 00:56:56.864
But then I also got it for running too, to use the app on that, which was really nice Nike Run app.

00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.027
Just, you still do daily wear that, or is it just here and there?

00:57:01.047 --> 00:57:09.231
No, yeah, it's just here and there, mostly lately, just when I go running, because I tried to wear it and use it for that and I just I never got into it.

00:57:10.717 --> 00:57:14.800
And Jeff's got a similar story, Like he tried way back when and has.

00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.007
Well, you've been with the UltraWatch for a while now.

00:57:18.916 --> 00:57:25.465
It'll be a year in November and I'm not afraid to evaluate or reevaluate.

00:57:25.465 --> 00:57:26.248
I'm happy with it.

00:57:26.248 --> 00:57:31.867
You know, in particular, I used it this weekend for hiking and used the All Trails app.

00:57:31.867 --> 00:57:40.123
I didn't use Apple's Baps for that for hiking this past weekend, but it's great for that.

00:57:40.123 --> 00:57:44.284
I can see where I am, you know, on the trail.

00:57:44.284 --> 00:57:46.228
Really good, really good trail direction.

00:57:46.735 --> 00:57:48.201
So that's a great thing.

00:57:48.201 --> 00:57:56.025
I still have the phone with me, though, because I'm going to take pictures with my phone, but I don't have to keep on hauling that out of my pocket to see where the trail is.

00:57:56.025 --> 00:57:57.639
I can just look at the watch.

00:57:59.014 --> 00:58:03.244
So, yeah, but my initial experience was I gave it to my son after six months.

00:58:03.244 --> 00:58:05.068
I just didn't.

00:58:05.068 --> 00:58:06.157
I never have.

00:58:06.157 --> 00:58:16.402
This is the first time I've worn a watch, probably in my life, and I've had this for a year almost, and sometimes I still forget about it.

00:58:16.402 --> 00:58:17.184
I did this morning.

00:58:17.184 --> 00:58:23.007
I didn't put it on until you know an hour or so after I started my day, and that's okay.

00:58:23.007 --> 00:58:30.007
I don't feel I like having it, but I don't feel bound to wear it all the time.

00:58:30.735 --> 00:58:34.605
Yeah, I've been trying to not be with my phone as much.

00:58:35.715 --> 00:58:44.242
I'm just kind of getting to where you know, if it wasn't, for I mean, because I have the podcast, I like to stay engaged.

00:58:44.242 --> 00:58:47.882
And then you know, again, with my car account it's not.

00:58:47.882 --> 00:58:53.581
There's not as much there, but because of the podcast I try to keep up with it, and then my girlfriend and my son and stuff.

00:58:53.581 --> 00:59:02.666
But there's been times when I'm like I'm going to go out to my car and clean it up and do some other stuff and I'm going to leave my phone in the apartment and it's a really good feeling.

00:59:04.038 --> 00:59:04.780
Yeah, I feel that.

00:59:04.780 --> 00:59:09.764
Definitely good to not be tied to those things.

00:59:09.764 --> 00:59:12.858
Yeah, which is easier said than done sometimes.

00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:14.163
Oh 100%.

00:59:14.163 --> 00:59:18.744
Yeah, but you know what did we do back in the day, you know.

00:59:19.635 --> 00:59:45.467
Well, we did read a book, magazines and TV shows and baseball games, and you know I think we mentioned this there's, you can look it up, but there's like a picture of someone posted is like here are all the things that have been replaced by the smartphone and it's like a huge table full of stuff, right Like video camera, cassette recorders and books and TVs and all these things.

00:59:45.467 --> 00:59:49.385
So it's, it's one of those double-edged swords.

00:59:49.385 --> 00:59:53.786
It's like, yeah, spend a bunch of time on there and be productive, learn a lot of stuff.

00:59:53.786 --> 00:59:57.003
I mean, look how much we talked about YouTube earlier.

00:59:57.003 --> 00:59:59.878
As you know, that's where we went to research things.

00:59:59.878 --> 01:00:04.043
So you know, good and bad, no surprise.

01:00:04.063 --> 01:00:06.960
Yeah, I mean, I think the cell phone is.

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:13.304
It is pretty amazing because, you know, you think back to back in the day when we were younger.

01:00:14.717 --> 01:00:30.076
If you're driving around, you've got a bunch of tapes, you know, If you're outside and you want to listen to music if you're not in your car, if you're not at home, well, I got to bring a Walkman, you know, with some headphones and yeah, like you said, what all the devices that it's replaced I mean.

01:00:30.076 --> 01:00:38.461
To me, I think, the biggest thing with having a phone and what the capability is the amount of music that you can have right there.

01:00:39.003 --> 01:00:41.318
Too much Because, yeah, I mean, yeah there's.

01:00:41.318 --> 01:00:48.393
There's just a humongous selection, but I mean it's pretty amazing because you don't have to deal with a see.

01:00:48.393 --> 01:01:00.503
I mean there's still something nostalgic about touching something and you know putting it in the CD player and all that kind of stuff, but they have the ability to just scroll and find a song within seconds.

01:01:00.503 --> 01:01:02.347
That's pretty awesome, yeah.

01:01:02.407 --> 01:01:02.887
I like that.

01:01:02.887 --> 01:01:06.001
Yeah, I've found some old albums in the garage.

01:01:06.001 --> 01:01:11.083
A couple of weekends ago I was cleaning some things out and like it's more iron maiden and Beastie Boys and stuff.

01:01:11.083 --> 01:01:25.646
But you take those out and you look and so you know you'd be, you'd be playing the record, but then the liner notes and everything that were on the you know, the sleeve that the album was in was became such a part of that experience back then right.

01:01:25.894 --> 01:01:31.416
Because it's like you know, maybe it had the lyrics, maybe it didn't, but it would have something right that you gave.

01:01:31.416 --> 01:01:35.240
Some of them were just pictures, but you could look at the pictures, like granted you didn't do that every time you played it.

01:01:35.240 --> 01:01:39.603
Usually it's the first time, but it was part of the experience that we don't really get now.

01:01:39.603 --> 01:01:47.300
I think you get some animated artwork for playlists and stuff like that on the Apple Music app and I'm not really looking at that.

01:01:48.364 --> 01:01:54.978
Yeah, and actually the new version of the Apple Music app also has you can see those kinds of details and not so much.

01:01:54.978 --> 01:01:59.476
You know there's not liner notes that I've seen yet, but there's definitely there's.

01:01:59.476 --> 01:02:03.206
If you go to a song, you can see who the instrumentalists were on the song.

01:02:03.206 --> 01:02:04.159
You can see all that stuff.

01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.485
Now that's all new in the latest version of the music app, which I do like.

01:02:08.485 --> 01:02:20.980
I like the ability to be able to go look at that, look at the lyrics, and I use the lyrics feature constantly, like I'm constantly paying attention to what's going on, which I've been doing since I was old enough to listen to music.

01:02:20.980 --> 01:02:26.626
You know that's kind of the way I played that game, but yeah, it's the physical.

01:02:26.983 --> 01:02:35.423
I still have LPs upstairs that you know I don't have a great turntable, but I have a turntable that I can throw those on.

01:02:35.423 --> 01:02:39.974
There are a couple of bands that it's like ah yeah, I definitely want to get on there Another hip again, so you can probably find them.

01:02:40.556 --> 01:02:41.699
They are, yeah, audio tech.

01:02:41.699 --> 01:02:43.503
There's like two record stores in town here.

01:02:43.503 --> 01:02:45.157
Audio tech.

01:02:45.157 --> 01:02:59.221
I can make one that's pretty good and that's probably what I'm going to get my son for Christmas, because he likes listening to records and his stepdad is he doesn't need anymore, I don't think, but he used to do some DJ stuff and so he has a lot of DJ equipment there at the house.

01:02:59.221 --> 01:03:05.081
Oh, cool and he's got a bunch of records and I've gotten my son some records so I want to get him a turntable for.

01:03:05.121 --> 01:03:05.684
Christmas.

01:03:05.684 --> 01:03:08.260
He's big into music, right yeah?

01:03:09.244 --> 01:03:10.597
Yeah, and he's my.

01:03:10.597 --> 01:03:15.226
The music, the intro and outro music for my podcast is music that my son made.

01:03:15.226 --> 01:03:19.344
He didn't make it for the podcast, it was music that he had made like the summer of 2020.

01:03:19.344 --> 01:03:25.364
I guess he was bored and I took it I mean it's royalty free, you know took it and used it.

01:03:25.443 --> 01:03:28.052
Yeah, that's great.

01:03:29.014 --> 01:03:31.342
Yeah, and I use, I use Spotify for my music.

01:03:31.342 --> 01:03:44.327
Just, I was using Apple music, but the thing I don't like about it and I don't know if that's changed is I like to change the EQ settings and I remember like there wasn't an adjustable EQ that you could set on your own.

01:03:44.327 --> 01:03:48.365
It was only preset EQ settings and you couldn't do it in the app.

01:03:48.365 --> 01:03:54.501
You had to go into settings on your phone and then go to like Apple music and then go to this thing and then this other thing.

01:03:54.501 --> 01:04:03.684
And what got me into using Spotify is my brother was using it and he wanted to share a playlist with me and I was like whoa, you can do that, he goes, yeah.

01:04:03.684 --> 01:04:08.382
So I signed up for Spotify, he shared his playlist with me and I've been using it ever since.

01:04:09.063 --> 01:04:26.902
Yeah, Spotify to me has always been not quite sure how to put it, but it always feels more like it's built for just a bunch of people that like to share music with other people, and it's and again I had and I say all that, but I've used Apple music for the last several years just because it's part of the bundle that I have.

01:04:28.056 --> 01:04:39.615
But it just seems to me like it's very playlist oriented and especially community playlist, like when you do a search and maybe all of that's changed since I haven't been on it as of late.

01:04:39.615 --> 01:04:45.092
But the Apple one you can find things but it's not as community.

01:04:45.092 --> 01:04:48.282
You know, like I'm not going to find Raphael's playlists.

01:04:48.702 --> 01:04:50.315
Like I could Well.

01:04:50.315 --> 01:04:53.943
Yeah, there's the option that you have to turn on, you know see what your friends are listening to.

01:04:53.943 --> 01:04:55.347
I'm not interested in that Right.

01:04:56.375 --> 01:05:05.760
And I've done that with a couple of people, but I think Spotify, though, just just feels more that that's been its thing, which is what I like, because I never want to listen to an album start to finish.

01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:12.141
I got tired of that when I was 12 and there was like two good songs and the other eight were trash and I'm like I'm out of that scene.

01:05:12.695 --> 01:05:13.760
I'm still 12, I guess.

01:05:14.335 --> 01:05:20.382
And it's just, it gets boring and I think part of it's because, you know, I did work radio for a while when I was 18 and liked being poor.

01:05:20.382 --> 01:05:27.085
I did that, but so, anyhow, we've gone off to a bit of a tangent there.

01:05:27.204 --> 01:05:28.827
Yeah, yeah, it's not that we ever do that.

01:05:28.827 --> 01:05:30.498
We're talking about music apps.

01:05:31.041 --> 01:05:32.445
Yep, all right.

01:05:32.445 --> 01:05:35.242
So, gentlemen, we are at about the hour mark.

01:05:35.242 --> 01:05:39.722
All right, rafael, any closing things?

01:05:39.722 --> 01:05:42.768
We didn't cover that that you wanted to talk about.

01:05:43.556 --> 01:05:44.702
No, I think we've covered it all.

01:05:44.702 --> 01:05:52.621
I mean, we talked about my setup, how I record, editing and a bunch of other fun stuff, and I just want to thank you both for having me on.

01:05:52.842 --> 01:05:53.202
It's great to have.

01:05:53.202 --> 01:05:55.731
It's been a pleasure Really really appreciate having you, rafael.

01:05:55.751 --> 01:06:01.586
Yeah, thank you, jeff, and if absolutely, it's been a pleasure and glad we could do it.

01:06:01.586 --> 01:06:09.967
I know we talked about it for a little while there, so glad we got it kind of synced up and it could do it and wish you nothing but continued success with the Sube and you podcast.

01:06:09.967 --> 01:06:12.905
I think that's a fantastic thing you're doing there.

01:06:12.905 --> 01:06:19.041
I think the response that you've seen from it is proof of that, so wish you all the best for that.

01:06:19.041 --> 01:06:21.699
Thank you, and do appreciate your time coming on with us.

01:06:22.215 --> 01:06:24.282
Yeah, and where can everybody find you on social media?

01:06:24.835 --> 01:06:41.295
So my podcast is Sube and you podcast and it's a dot in between all the words, and then you can find me at Sube and you podcastcom and I don't have Twitter or what's the other threads.

01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:43.275
Yeah, threads blue sky.

01:06:44.041 --> 01:06:45.070
Yeah, I'm on Facebook.

01:06:45.090 --> 01:06:45.454
Masked at home.

01:06:45.936 --> 01:06:49.217
I don't really do anything with Facebook, so it's mostly Instagram.

01:06:49.418 --> 01:06:52.525
Good for you, yeah, all right, cool, cool, excellent.

01:06:52.985 --> 01:06:53.427
Thanks again.

01:06:55.197 --> 01:06:58.045
Yeah, and we'll have links to all of that in the podcast notes.

01:06:58.045 --> 01:07:01.804
So, as usual, a feedback at basicafshowcom.

01:07:01.804 --> 01:07:04.443
You can get us there if you need to get us there.

01:07:04.443 --> 01:07:10.882
You can get our website, basicafshowcom as well, and we'll be happy to respond to any emails.

01:07:10.882 --> 01:07:12.199
We'd love to have emails.

01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:13.822
We still have stickers and whatnot.

01:07:13.822 --> 01:07:16.382
If anybody wants something like that, happy to do it.

01:07:16.382 --> 01:07:22.025
Show artwork the amazing Randall Martin design.

01:07:22.025 --> 01:07:27.306
So we're always happy to shout Randall out, who has been working on a book with my sister.

01:07:27.766 --> 01:07:32.425
Nice so which she should have her hot little hands on in the next couple of weeks.

01:07:32.425 --> 01:07:42.688
And then music by Psychokinetics, and we're grateful to Psychokinetics and Celcius7 for giving us the beats to intro and outro too.

01:07:42.688 --> 01:07:48.259
Tommy, anything else, tommy, look at me, kick my ass after that.

01:07:49.635 --> 01:07:51.617
Hey, tommy, what are we going to do About my bedtime?

01:07:51.617 --> 01:07:52.786
So we're going to have to go guys.

01:07:53.255 --> 01:07:54.760
Yeah, okay, it's nine o'clock.

01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.041
Tommy.

01:07:55.175 --> 01:07:56.563
The name is Neo.

01:07:57.775 --> 01:07:58.697
Yes, you got it in.

01:07:58.697 --> 01:08:00.702
Excellent, I was waiting for that.

01:08:00.702 --> 01:08:04.722
All right, no, I think that is that's everything.

01:08:04.722 --> 01:08:07.079
So, rafael, again, thank you so much.

01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:12.461
Yeah, man, thanks, I really appreciate it All right, and for all of you listening there, thank you for joining us.

01:08:12.461 --> 01:08:15.800
As always, have a great rest of your day, or rest of your night.

01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:31.368
See ya, adios, see you next time.