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This is a dork party.
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The more, the merrier, and just like that we're back.
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It is a new episode of Basic AF.
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Tom and Jeff back at it again.
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Jeff West coasting it again.
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Here I am on the West coast in another Dahmer basement, the brother of Jeffrey Dahmer it's a family tradition, it seems it really is.
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And the bodies underneath the concrete are in a family tradition.
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Actually, truth be told, this is legit.
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So sad story.
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My niece is one of her bunnies had to be euthanized.
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This week.
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I know we're starting off on a solid moment.
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Yeah, yeah, welcome.
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Welcome to the Basic AF show.
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But we were going through, like, how many animals are buried in the back yard?
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This is like dude, some archaeologist is going to come here and think it was a cemetery, or or the family home is going to be writing a new novel.
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Yeah, this is that I moved here, I think about when I was five.
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It was shortly after my next brother was born.
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My parents had a house across the back fence.
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They were renting a house across the back fence and Mr Hugley I think that was the guy's name sold us, sold my parents this house and sold me a tree in the back yard for $1.
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So I owned a tree, kind of sweet.
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Yeah, gave me a little deed written on a piece of paper.
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It was pretty cool.
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But yeah, I've lived here.
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I'd lived here for a you know, until I left home Nice.
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This is, this is the place.
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This basement didn't exist at that time.
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Right, you know, jeffrey Dahmer has to.
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And you said that your brother studio now.
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Is that right?
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It is my brother studio so he does, you know, some voiceover stuff here and some music and stuff like that.
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Nice.
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He was kind enough to share, share his space with me, and here I am.
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It's actually pretty cool.
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You know, he's got a bunch of music stuff around.
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It's way more decorated than is my spot at home, which I have to change.
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Yeah, well up, surrounded by clothes.
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So it's better than that.
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Cool, and that dress looks great on you.
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You're looking so hot.
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Doll up for you a little bit I appreciate it.
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Real quick.
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You know we're on the shorter format.
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We did the last show came in at about 30 minutes care for take and we did get some good feedback on that.
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And so yeah, we were excited about that.
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We felt like that show turned out pretty well and I think a few people did get in touch with this and they like the shorter format, so we're going to stick with that.
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I think it helps us stay more locked in, more on focus.
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Yeah, I struggle with that anyway.
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So anything to help is good.
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Yeah, we got some.
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We got an email this week actually about the subscription stuff which and actually the cost of subscriptions going up.
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So thank you to a Mr Abe Frenes for sending us a little note.
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We appreciate that.
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So there's your, there's your.
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Shout out, pal.
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Send us another, we'll do it again yeah pretend that you like us and we'll pretend that we like you back, right yeah?
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Easy peasy.
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So also, as we released that show a couple of weeks ago, that was the same day that Apple had scheduled their scary fast events.
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So they did have that event.
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Nice, I thought the event was.
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It was kind of cool.
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It was a different take for them with the Halloween theming and the dark backgrounds and some of the effects and things.
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They had strictly a Mac event, which everyone kind of expected.
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But we did get the M3 chip and three and three, three flavors and three flavors, and three flavors, yeah, and the M3 Macs on the MacBook Pros.
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Which thing?
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I.
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You know I'm not in the market at the moment, although I'm back in the Bay Area.
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So we can run that stuff for the 5000.
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But I like it, I.
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What's pretty interesting is these computers are getting so juicy.
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Now for the average person you know, like Joe me, who sits here and types words and sits doing a podcast, it's, it's a lot of bang.
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It's a lot of bang for the buck.
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So I like them all.
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I'm not in the market for any of them, so there's nothing about it that gets me that way.
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The one complaint that a lot of people have had is go for it, tom.
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What is it?
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8 gigs of RAM on the entry model.
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Feels like we've had 8 gigs of RAM for a long time.
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Yeah, and you know Apple's line is which I'm not going to argue with this honestly is that 8 gigs of Ram with that Ram on board the main chip, like 16 gigs, they say, of regular RAM.
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I know there's a lot that you can wrangle about.
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You know you can get a $200.
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You'd like me to do that a little bit, or are we going to try to stay positive today?
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No, no.
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What would the show be without you Bitching little bits?
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Well, no, I was going to say so when we started testing the MacBook Air as it worked, the first model we got was an 8G model.
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No, I'm sorry, that's incorrect.
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It was the M1, 13 inch MacBook Pro.
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It was an 8G model and for what I do, it really was fine.
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So I don't think, performance wise, if you know like us and you're gonna just do emails, web browsing, things like that, I think yeah, okay.
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I think the biggest issue I have with it really is this is a $1,500 laptop.
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That the entry level model is.
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So I think MacBook Air starting at 8G, mac Mini starting at 8G, especially the Mac Mini, because that comes in around 500 bucks.
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I think that makes sense, but a $1,500 laptop, it seems cheap, right.
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So it's 8G and the real kicker is so today all I'm doing is browsing and doing some emails or whatever, but say, six months from now, I decided to start a YouTube channel and I wanna do some video, because I've always.
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Oh, I like this stuff.
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Now I can't upgrade the RAM.
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Right, right, and that is problematic.
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You gotta think ahead.
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Right, and a lot of times, though, you don't know what you don't know and it's like, okay, well, jeez, now I guess I'll get another laptop.
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It's not that the 8G laptop couldn't do it it could.
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Now, if you're and kind of the asterisk there for all of it is the people that need more than 8G know they need more than 8G and they'll get 16 or 32 or whatever it is, but they do have to pay extra to get it, which goes back to that.
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If this is a pro laptop at $1,500, 16g seems like it should be the starting point.
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Yeah, I don't disagree with you and I can tell you, my rule of thumb on buying any of these things for the last many, many years is double, whatever the base model is.
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That's the way that I've played the game.
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So but I would say it does.
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And if they started with 16 gigs, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't double that, that's the notion and they know that.
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Yes, they do, don't they?
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They've got very smart people there.
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Marketing cats got smarts or the money making people have smarts Firehands offices is dialed in at Apple.
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No question about that.
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Yeah, they know the deal.
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So, but that has been.
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It has been a complaint about Apple computers since Long time.
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The first little Mac showed up in a little bag that you plopped on your desk and stuck a couple of discounts into you know that not new.
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So we have a new color space black.
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Yeah, I haven't seen it.
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Have you Not in person?
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No, I've only seen pictures.
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It's not black, it's darker gray.
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And one thing they did mention was that they've got a new coating that should reduce the fingerprints, because I think that's a big complaint with the midnight MacBook Air is it seems to accumulate fingerprints quite a bit, which I think still is a nice color.
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I've seen that one and it looks nice, so I'm sure this looks good too.
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Yeah, sure it's great, I always buy silver, just because I just buy silver right.
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If I were getting something new then I might get the.
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You might get that one.
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I kind of like that color yeah.
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Imax got updated as well.
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They did To the chips.
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No design changes on those, so still 24 inch display, 4.5K.
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Which those are great computers.
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One of my client has one of those and first of all she loves it.
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You know she thinks it's the best thing going.
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She said next time she would get a purple one.
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She got she refers to it as greeny she got a green one.
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She loves the green one, she really does.
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But when she gets, when she's in the market for a new one, it's gonna be purple.
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But yeah, and I like the color scheme on those, I gotta say, unlike the iPhones.
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I like to see that come down to the MacBook Air.
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I'd like to see some different colors for that.
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That would be kind of fun right.
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I agree that would be.
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That would be kind of a slick play.
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If they did that, I think you'd see a lot of people that would.
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That would buy those.
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And, by the way, macbook Air still, I think, a killer buyer.
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I was talking with my aunt and uncle yesterday and they're running, I think, a 2013 MacBook Pro and they're asking me what they should get to replace that, because it's kind of running, the battery's gone and to replace it's a couple hundred bucks but the computer can't even be updated.
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And they were surprised at first that I said MacBook Air is like no, I think this is.
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Yeah, they're so nice.
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Really are Love the one I have from work, and I think I told you the other day, if I were buying now, I wouldn't get the 16 inch Pro, I'd just get maybe the 13 inch MacBook Air or maybe the 15.
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I haven't seen the 15 in person yet, but the 13 is great.
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I did just see one of those.
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Another one of my clients got one and it's great computer.
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It's really nicely sized and still kind of lightweight, Mm-hmm.
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But, jeff, an important thing.
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Yes, we need to pour one out for the touch bar.
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The final touch bar model has been retired the 13 inch.
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MacBook Pro with M2 did not get upgraded, and that was the last one with the touch bar?
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I don't know that anybody's gonna miss that.
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I think it was a fun idea to try, but I don't think the value at was.
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Yeah, and people kind of you know, rip on Apple a little bit for not experimenting more, and then they do things and people rip on that.
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So it's like you know I'm sure they don't mind that I think the best thing I saw on that touch bar was.
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I'm sorry, go ahead.
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I just interrupted for the first thousandth time in this podcast.
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I think the best thing that I ever saw with the touch pad was somebody made it so you could play Doom on the touch pad itself.
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So Doom was running on the touch pad, so that was kind of fun.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean it was an interesting idea, but where it was placed you?
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know, no one's looking at that right.
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You're always looking at the display and I don't know.
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I'm a little surprised they actually released it, because it was kind of wacky.
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Like when you saw it at first you're like, wow, that looks cool, but the practicality of it just wasn't there enough to do anything with it.
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That was kind of handy for scrubbing through YouTube videos and things like that.
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But yeah, that's pretty much that and photos in your photo library, Right?
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Maybe music if you were doing something.
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You can sing through that, Right?
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right, yeah, so there we go.
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That's the event pretty much.
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It was 30 minutes shot on iPhone, which had some people worked up.
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Of course, everything Works everybody up these days.
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Gotta have something to post about on YouTube and social media.
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But Right, and the funny thing about that, by the way, is people complaining that they were using lighting and that they were using dollies.
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It's like you don't say what kind of crack are you guys smoking?
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Have you ever seen what happens when people film stuff?
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Right, they did use the $10,000 camera.
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Guess what they just still had.
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Those same things, Exactly right.
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And I think the point is and this is pretty amazing really is that the iPhone, because they're able to shoot directly to disk.
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You know, they can shoot directly to an SSD.
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This is pretty a lot of bang for your buck for being able to use that phone as a camera.
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And you know, I'll say that one of the things that was surprising to me and this is 10, maybe 15 years ago that people were starting to use SLRs, digital SLRs, as professional film cameras.
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This is kind of the next iteration of that.
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This is a phone that can pull that kind of stuff off.
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So you know, your average guy who can't afford a red camera, you know one of those.
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I don't know what those things cost now $10,000 or something like that.
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You know you can use an iPhone Pro Max and once you have the right lighting, you can shoot just like the pros do.
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I mean, come on, steven Soderbergh's been shooting on the iPhone for a long time, you know, not in a gimmicky fashion and they were doing some fun stuff.
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They were using wheelchairs and Soderbergh was using wheelchairs and stuff like that, as Dolly used to move the camera.
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It's something you know.
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I think it's.
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It puts a lot in the hands of someone that's willing to do that kind of work and it's gonna take lighting, no matter what.
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Yeah, and a lot of indie people have used iPhones for several years with the filmic app and things, so I think it's just, you know, keeps getting better and better.
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but it's Agreed, so the complainer's gonna complain, but it's pretty impressive.
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Yeah, that's how we do podcasts as we complain.
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Well, right.
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I'm here for that.
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You're getting well yeah you always offer.
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By the way, I just want to point out that the lighting in my studio is way the hell better than yours is right now.
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Look at this dude.
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I just I just want my face looks.
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Well, yeah, yeah, I'm in the closet man, it's yeah, lights right in my face.
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That's a whole nother story Keeps me awake.
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We can get around that.
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I'm in San Francisco.
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We can work that out for.
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Well, we'll come up with a special episode, We'll travel there together and the rumors will really fly All right.
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So the event all wrapped up, I think short suite to the point it was, and so I think upgrade wise if you are on an Intel Mac.
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Oh, no question yeah when you're ready and want to do it, you're up in for a treat.
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I think you got a lot of options all the way down the line now yeah.
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If you're on an M1, yeah, probably not M2, definitely not Again, unless you're in that really high but small percent of folks who need to eke every last bit of performance out.
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Or you need to do reviews on YouTube.
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Yes, you can get that, but otherwise I think you're good.
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Agreed.
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Okay.
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So, like Tom, we're under the next step.
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Let's do it.
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So this is a mostly tech podcast, and we've got some exciting news today.
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Well, tom has some exciting news.
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I have a pile of pictures not right in front of me this second, but I have a pile of pictures that Tom just sent me of the new gym you set up in your garage.
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So you've moved from the closet to the garage where on our way out the front door.
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That's a good thing, but it's it's a Really amazing set up.
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You've been wanting to do a home gym for a while, and so I want to have you tell us a little bit about the kit you put together, what you did, how you, you know, set everything up, but I'm telling you I would come work out at your gym time.
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Would you're welcome anytime?
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Good, that means six hours away, but anytime you want to come, yeah.
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Right, yeah, right now it's definitely six hours by plane away, right, um?
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So tell us?
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So tell us a little bit about Kind of the, the design, the dream, what it is that you did, what kind of kit you got for that?
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Very slick, very colorful, I want to say very old Apple color.
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It is, yes, it's yeah, tell us a tell us a little bit about it.
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Yeah, so the I, I have been Pretty much regularly going to the gym since I was in my mid-20s.
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Doesn't necessarily look like it.