iPhone 15 Pro Max First Impressions, watchOS 10 Upgrade Remorse

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15 inch.

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All right, welcome in everybody.

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Once again it is a new episode of basic AF.

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It's Tom and Jeff.

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Jeff, how's it going, brother?

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All right, man, All right.

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It was just dancing like Donald Trump did at that thing, Whoa it was not expecting that you were not paying any attention.

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I saw you dancing.

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What I'm trying to think, what I'm going to say as the show Starts?

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It's hard for me.

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I'm not that smart.

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And you can't do two things at once.

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Yeah, I was.

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I was doing the, for sure, not the Trump tango.

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Well, so anyway, yet again friends, be glad this is an audio show, not video.

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And yeah, you were spared that.

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I got to see it.

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I'll take it for you there.

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Oh yeah, at least I'm dressed, yeah, so welcome back to this show.

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We do appreciate you being here with us For this one.

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If you are new, welcome, and we're happy to have you here with us and hope that you will enjoy it enough to add us to your playlist.

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If you have feedback on any of these things questions on topics, feedback on Jeff's dancing, my Stupidity, whatever it is, feedback at basic af show calm is how you can contact us if you want to do such a thing that is correct.

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That is correct.

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You can do that.

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By the way, we are a show numero 19 man.

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We're at the precipice of 20, which you know in years.

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I might like that back and I would take it, yeah, I would too in these brains so 20 in these brains, I think.

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In that first podcast we did back in 2011 With our friend John I think, we got up to 30 couple episodes.

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Did we get that?

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I think we did, because that was a weekly.

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So we were doing that on a weekly, which is probably why we burned out and just stopped.

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You guys pulled me in later in the game because I do not feel like I was.

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I think we did 30 in.

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Yeah, I think we got.

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You needed my brilliance to make it good taking next level right, which is why I reached back out to you for this one.

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See so, but yeah that's.

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If we can beat that, I think we'll Run something anyway, but yeah, yeah, maybe at least we're still having fun.

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I think, yeah, that's the main thing Stop's being fun, we'll just stop the show.

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It's not like we're gonna money.

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Probably not.

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We got nothing else to do.

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Yes, so the last show that we published Will be two weeks ago by the time this one drops out, but that was the day that IOS, ipad OS, watch OS, tv OS and HomePod whatever they call that software these days we're all released then, and Just this past week We've had Mac OS, sonoma released, the new iPhones and Apple watches have shipped, so there's a whole lot of new stuff, jeff, and so I figured for this show We'll just talk about the new stuff.

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You've got something new to talk about?

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I do, I do, I picked up a titanium iPhone 15 inch and and 15 inch Dude.

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I Swear.

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You know I swear this every time.

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Maybe it's a lie.

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I have not been drinking.

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I I found 15 pro 15 inch, 15 inch.

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MacBook.

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I think that's the.

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That's gonna be the next iPad size, I think is like a 15.

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Okay, so I'm seeing the.

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If we had a bet book, we could put it in the bet book.

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We don't have a bed book.

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I don't have enough money as it is, I need to be betting what I don't have anyway.

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Sorry, I phone 15 pro max, not 15 inch, although you know who knows, maybe someday that'll be a thing.

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Did pick up in the titanium titanium.

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I did have to wait for it a couple of days.

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I went to the AT&T store, ordered it and I Got it.

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This is the first time I'm using a pro max.

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That's right.

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You're up sized, correct?

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I did up size and I will say it is not significantly different than what I was holding when I had the last one.

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I had was 13.

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That I traded in with a leather case on it.

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This one is running around naked, at least for the moment, and the size is not significantly different than than that.

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So in my hand I'm not.

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I thought it might be a little.

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Okay, continue.

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Listen, I wasn't being filthy, you are.

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Right into it.

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We had 15 inches in my hand, Sorry you don't lie much, do you know not?

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Much at all.

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Oh hi this this one's off.

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We've fallen off the rails straight ahead.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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Thanks for hanging out with us.

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We'll see you next time.

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It's great.

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So the phone in my hand is not significantly different or doesn't feel significantly different than the the 13 pro that I was using before.

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So it's nice feel the width is not that big a difference.

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It's taller, definitely taller, and that that is where the biggest part of the difference is.

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Uh, one downside to this is that in my car I now have to use a plug to charge my phone because the it it had MagSafe wireless charging in the car it no longer fits In the place where it used to go.

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It's a little taller and therefore does not sit in that spot.

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It's not a big deal.

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It just picked up the, you know, picked up a cable and plug it in.

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But it that is a thing, that is a thing it's important to know too that often when I was doing that wireless charging, the thing heated up so much that it would not Charge.

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You know I got a little too toasty, but you know small, small potatoes as far as I concerned, uh, really loving the camera, I think.

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Did I send you pictures yesterday?

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I don't think I did not yet.

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No, okay, yeah, I um.

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So not quite the harvest moon, we're almost there, but last night I was walking home and, uh, the moon was up over the mountain behind my house, took a nice little picture which I'll send to you.

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Used the wait, that one you did send.

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Yeah, I did.

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I sent you the moon.

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So stop.

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You know, my mind is bad enough already.

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Tom, don't tell me.

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I didn't send you things when I did.

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Oh, I remember that it's an abusive relationship.

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It is, yeah, and that's why we love each other pretty much.

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So that the new lens really, really nice.

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I've been just goofing around with it.

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I did send you a few of those pictures where I, you know, did wide angle view of.

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My feet.

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Yeah, thanks I feet.

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Yeah, so great.

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Oh, I know you're into that.

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Oh yeah um.

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So I'm sorry folks, just like a hot mess, it's been a long week.

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It has been, um, so Really loving that.

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But I, I in this is, you know, in this moment, in this moment, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this Uh, I don't know if I needed to make this purchase.

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Why do I say that, tom, I love the camera, but the reality is I would not buy a thousand dollar camera every two years, nor would I you know what I'm saying I would not pay A thousand dollars to have a better camera every couple of years.

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Uh, and that is to me the most significant piece of this Upgrade you said you were coming from the 13.

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Correct, I came from the 13.

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Okay, and I loved the 13.

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The battery life was getting a little, you know, I won't say it was bad, it was still running all day, but not what I was used to.

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Yeah, um, but in terms of what I got for my buck, I got an extra lens and some other features.

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You know some other photographic features, which is really what you know they.

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I always go by the adage that you know what's the best phone to have.

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It's the one that you have with you.

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Um, or sorry, what's the best camera?

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Right, see, I can't, I don't know what I'm doing tonight.

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You should drink, I should, because I probably be better.

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Um, I, uh.

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So what's the best camera?

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It's the one you have with you and I always have the phone with me and I Always take pictures.

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I take pictures almost every single day.

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So you know, I'm happy to have the new lens.

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But if I were using, you know, photo kit, you know my old Nikon, I might have bought a new lens and I would have used that lens until the end of time.

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And then, when I bought a new Nikon, if I did that at some point in time, the lenses all still work with the same camera body.

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So I.

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I have been on a and every two year upgrade plan.

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That's.

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That's the way I've been for a long time.

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I don't know whether I'm gonna need to do that going forward, unless you know they have some kind of transporter beam in the next one.

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It's, it's not to me.

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I've reached a point where the speed of my last phone was fine, mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I was gonna ask about that really good.

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What's that?

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I was going to ask about that If you've noticed any perceived speed Increases with what you do day to day, because you could throw the benchmarks on and it'll say, oh, it's 35% faster, but in a daily usage of the thing, you know it's hard to what I do.

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It does take pictures really quickly, right.

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So you and that was one of the things that they shot for that, you know you, you press the button or you, you know you tap that little, that little tapper, it takes a quick picture, right, hey, in that for sure it's, it's doing really quickly.

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But on my day-to-day Don't know, and it's kind of you know that that came to be the case with computers.

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I used to get like a new MacBook or power book back in the day.

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I would, I would, I do they were nice.

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I mean, if you had to use it today, obviously it would be very crappy, because right, we've progressed so far, but past that, but at the time they were, they were really great.

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Yeah, but I, as far as computers, I don't like I need a new one every eight years.

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Now, mm-hmm, you know, seven years.

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I wait till it really Really runs down like the one I have now, especially thanks to the thieves I, you know I I can't see Out growing it.

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For you know, seven or eight years is like why?

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No reason to do that, and I feel like for myself this is not gonna be true of everybody, but for myself the phone is more than enough.

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And To upgrade just for a camera and spend that much money just for a camera, I don't think I need to do it anymore.

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Cool to have the tech.

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I like it.

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Yep, but I don't know if I need it and I'm gonna say I got the titanium titanium, it's nice.

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That just sounds funny.

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I know.

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Titanium, titanium, whoa Um, sounds like some Marvel.

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I don't know Marvel bad guy.

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The guy didn't make the cut like sorry, you're out, we've got everyone else.

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Titanium.

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Titanium is out, he's.

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He's gonna be an evil doer.

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Now he's the me of Marvel characters it's.

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I Gotta say this season of color Ain't so hot on these.

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Like it's okay, it looks like silver, to be frank with you, and when I compared it when I was handed in my, my 13, which had the green 13 which I liked, but they even that looks kind of like this, like this new titanium, titanium, the natural, titanium natural, whatever Is it really natural oh that's what they say.

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It's gotta be, if they say it.

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It, it doesn't look.

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It doesn't look all that different to me, you know.

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It's just like.

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It's okay.

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I have something like.

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I agonize.

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I don't want agonize anymore, but I used to say, well, always get the silver one, maybe I'll get, you know, space gray or whatever.

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But then I always put a case on it and so all I really see is the bump out around the Camera.

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Yeah, and that's all I see, but yeah, whatever.

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So with those lenses that are in the new one, when you're in the camera app, what do you have in there, like point five one, two X and five X?

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Is that what you correct?

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That's the way it shows up and you know.

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So you end up with an extra one.

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It was kind of interesting.

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I can't remember maybe it was Mac rumors, I can't remember if you sent it to me to not or not, or if it's something that I I saw.

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But they, you know they're using like a prismatic mirror in it to be able to get that kind of depth.

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On the, on that lens, somebody had done a mock-up of how deep it would need to be and you know if it was an actual lens and it was sticking out about three-quarter on edge.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So you know that's.

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That's pretty miraculous.

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That works really well.

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I have the Action capabilities now, so I did not have it in the previous version of.

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I don't think the iPhone 13 had the ability to.

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You know, for you to run down the street like that ad With the mom chasing her kid as he's running a race.

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She's bouncing all over the place yeah, 13.

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I don't think.

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I don't think I think they put that in on the 14 right you, you have it or you have it.

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I have it now.

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I used it to shoot some birds on my bird feeder.

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To shoot pictures.

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I didn't shoot the birds.

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No pita people, please.

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It's on there in the 14.

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I Used it.

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Maybe once I used it to shoot.

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Video of birds and my bird feeder Work great because usually you know I can't get quite close enough to them.

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That the new lens gets me a lot closer Than than it did before.

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But I had to zoom in a little in addition to the what the lens was to be able to get a good look at the bird.

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And I put on that action mode because the further you zoom you know when it's handheld it gets jacked up.

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You know you're.

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It looks like you're on an ocean liner in a bad storm, at least when I'm holding it.

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Action mode was great.

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It it centered.

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You wouldn't even know that I was wobbling around in the way that I was, so it did great work of being able to keep everything in there.

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So I like that.

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Yeah, new me that.

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That link with the part of the review where they used action mode.

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Uh-huh, who did that is?

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I can't remember his name.

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I know if, soon as you say it up again, definitely that's, yeah, yeah yeah, and have to look back at what I've sent you in the past and we've been chatting a lot.

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We have been, and if you want to call chatting Well, it's mostly me raging out bit.

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Yes, hold on, I'll tell you who it is.

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I'm scrolling back.

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You're not talking about the Angie agar no.

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She's too sorry, completely off topic, but the the football Maven, she's the best I just gotta.

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I just gotta say she does amazing recaps of football week, especially for me, a guy who doesn't watch football.

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I'm scrolling back it's a long ways and always back and Hold on.

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Tyler stallman.

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There we go, yeah, great.

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So he he had some thoughts about the action button.

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I have switched the X and button.

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As I said, I went to halide.

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I Downloaded a new little app, which is actually not an app.

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It just really adds a bunch of actions to Shortcuts that are pretty useful.

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That I think I'm gonna make it so I can do a couple of different things with the action button.

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But right now the action button holds halide or opens halide.

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When you hold it Sorry, that's, I was jumping ahead in my mind you, you have to hold it down, you can't just click it.

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So, which is probably a good idea, because then you don't accidentally Trigger stuff on a pocket, right?

00:16:50.386 --> 00:16:52.013
Is that a camera in your pocket or use that piece.

00:16:52.013 --> 00:16:52.354
No.

00:16:54.206 --> 00:16:56.794
Thought we steered away from that, but here we are yet.

00:17:00.706 --> 00:17:00.966
Sorry.

00:17:00.966 --> 00:17:06.755
So the one of the things that he said.

00:17:06.755 --> 00:17:07.355
What was his name?

00:17:07.355 --> 00:17:09.127
Again, tyler stallman.

00:17:09.127 --> 00:17:11.976
Yeah, okay, tyler stallman, which we should probably post.

00:17:11.976 --> 00:17:13.200
That video was really good.

00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.576
Video about the photography features yes, he's a professional photographer.

00:17:16.576 --> 00:17:37.025
About the photography features the placement of the action button Little high, it's above, you know, the volume switches, where you'd expect it to be, and it Makes more sense now that it is not a mute, you know, a silence switch.

00:17:37.025 --> 00:17:48.479
It makes more sense for it to be, I think, beneath the volume buttons, where it's easier to get at with your thumb right, which is more about the halfway point.

00:17:50.026 --> 00:17:52.653
Yeah, you wanted about the halfway point and it is not.

00:17:52.653 --> 00:18:00.951
And particularly on the Pro Max, which is bigger, I Would have to look at it and see where they actually align.

00:18:00.951 --> 00:18:03.298
But because the Pro Max is bigger, that's a reach.

00:18:03.298 --> 00:18:08.305
Yeah, I can get to it, but it's definitely, definitely a reach.

00:18:08.305 --> 00:18:18.810
So it may be in some redesign it might make more sense to have that have that sit below the volume button, since it's no longer a volume toggle.

00:18:18.810 --> 00:18:22.094
I Never have the volume on on my phone.

00:18:22.865 --> 00:18:23.186
Me either.

00:18:23.186 --> 00:18:24.550
Yeah, I always have that off.

00:18:25.093 --> 00:18:27.907
Yep, so I Don't need.

00:18:27.907 --> 00:18:29.732
You know that that button was useless to me.

00:18:29.732 --> 00:18:35.307
I didn't use it for anything except for when he went to like some Some video games.

00:18:35.307 --> 00:18:40.499
If you play them you need to have the volume on and this way to be able to do it, unless you had headphones on.

00:18:40.499 --> 00:18:46.346
But other than that there's no reason to you know there's no reason to do it so.

00:18:46.346 --> 00:19:00.244
But I will say I love the feature and I'm looking forward to doing a little more work with that to kind of Add some other options where I can do select from a list and maybe, if I want the camera open but make it easy.

00:19:01.567 --> 00:19:13.545
But the ease with which I can now open halide, which remember I did the little tap the back twice, yep, or knock three times on the ceiling if you, oh no, oh tack two times.

00:19:13.545 --> 00:19:17.035
I know it's the worst show ever because you're stuck with me singing.

00:19:17.035 --> 00:19:23.086
You know Songs from a long time ago that nobody knows the.

00:19:23.086 --> 00:19:25.877
If I no longer need to use that, I can just.

00:19:25.877 --> 00:19:27.525
I can just open halide that way.

00:19:27.525 --> 00:19:30.143
So I like, I like that a lot.

00:19:30.143 --> 00:19:33.487
I do Enjoy.

00:19:33.487 --> 00:19:35.170
I don't even know what it's called.

00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:36.509
What's the silly thing at the top called?

00:19:36.509 --> 00:19:37.109
I'm supposed to be.

00:19:37.109 --> 00:19:38.313
This is a tech podcast, right.

00:19:38.393 --> 00:19:39.737
Oh, the dynamic other things.

00:19:39.977 --> 00:19:43.285
Dynamic island I like that a lot.

00:19:43.285 --> 00:19:47.644
I'm finding that there are a lot of things about it that I enjoy.

00:19:47.644 --> 00:19:57.387
But I will say again, buying the phone for the dynamic island, you know, I don't that's.

00:19:57.387 --> 00:20:01.356
That's not enough, I don't think, to justify.

00:20:01.758 --> 00:20:04.944
No you know, especially that's down on the 15 now too.

00:20:04.944 --> 00:20:15.453
So if you could, if you really wanted that, you could save a few bucks and just get the regular iPhone 15, which is, at least from what I recall from the, the event.

00:20:15.453 --> 00:20:21.039
It sounds Almost just like the 14 Pro, but it's now just the 15, because right 15.

00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:22.565
So that's a really solid phone.

00:20:23.587 --> 00:20:26.096
It is, yeah it, absolutely solid.

00:20:26.096 --> 00:20:29.509
So, anyway, it's from that perspective.

00:20:29.509 --> 00:20:36.059
You know, I'm happy to have the camera, but I am gonna, I think, start rethinking my.

00:20:36.059 --> 00:20:40.855
You know, once every two years upgrade your phone point of view.

00:20:40.855 --> 00:20:47.277
I Don't know that I need to do that anymore, you know right.

00:20:47.277 --> 00:20:49.829
Unless there's something.

00:20:50.988 --> 00:20:57.531
You know, we get a big redesign or something groundbreaking comes out, then it's like okay, oh, that'll kind of maybe throw my pattern what?

00:20:57.672 --> 00:21:00.057
what is groundbreaking at this point for your phone?

00:21:00.057 --> 00:21:03.113
Nothing, yeah right, you know they're.

00:21:03.113 --> 00:21:04.175
I don't see.

00:21:04.175 --> 00:21:07.631
I mean it's like some groundbreaking Do we?

00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:09.134
are we with laptops these days?

00:21:09.134 --> 00:21:09.474
I mean?

00:21:09.575 --> 00:21:10.557
yeah, they look nice and.

00:21:11.125 --> 00:21:11.446
It's a lot.

00:21:11.446 --> 00:21:13.978
Sit on and do the same right form as the power books.

00:21:13.978 --> 00:21:26.769
We talked about 10 minutes right, and so I've got 14 pro now and, like you, I usually do the every other cycle and and I'm on the fence about that, but we'll see.

00:21:28.286 --> 00:21:29.028
Yeah, I'm, I mean.

00:21:30.305 --> 00:21:32.473
Perfectly content with with what I have.

00:21:33.905 --> 00:21:41.000
Yeah, and and truth of the matter is and I don't think I knew it until I had this in my hands, but I was perfectly content with my 13.

00:21:41.483 --> 00:21:47.026
Yeah, no, did you hand that down to someone or traded in or Normally?

00:21:47.046 --> 00:21:54.468
I would have my son who was driving my 11 Mm-hmm he.

00:21:54.468 --> 00:22:03.740
He was ready for a new phone and I was gonna hand it down to him, but we both decided that he'll he'll get a new one.

00:22:03.740 --> 00:22:06.810
So he is actually getting the same one that I have.

00:22:07.010 --> 00:22:12.029
Okay, yeah, it's what I actually do is I take and hand it down I.

00:22:13.185 --> 00:22:18.637
Did get these through AT&T and you know you have to sell your soul to them, but they were giving.

00:22:18.637 --> 00:22:21.451
Basically, I got a.

00:22:21.451 --> 00:22:25.732
I got a thousand dollars for my 13 okay, helps.

00:22:25.732 --> 00:22:32.045
Yeah, so you know they tried in for a thousand dollars and I get you know this for those marketers know what they're doing.

00:22:33.107 --> 00:22:37.361
They do and you know for me who's not gonna be doing anything for three years probably.

00:22:37.361 --> 00:22:38.484
Anyway, I'm perfectly fine.

00:22:38.484 --> 00:22:40.070
So he's doing the same thing.

00:22:40.070 --> 00:22:47.355
They gave him 800, 700 for the 11, maybe 600, I can't remember.

00:22:47.355 --> 00:22:50.932
I'd have to ask him, but he Pretty good for that 11.

00:22:51.314 --> 00:22:57.318
Yeah, I think a co-worker she, I Want to say, got six or 700 for hers.

00:22:57.318 --> 00:23:00.632
She got the 15 Mm-hmm in the blue color.

00:23:00.632 --> 00:23:02.459
Okay, and how's that look?

00:23:02.459 --> 00:23:03.865
I haven't seen it in person yet.

00:23:03.865 --> 00:23:05.652
I'm gonna try to get over to her.

00:23:05.652 --> 00:23:06.715
How do you know she has it?

00:23:06.715 --> 00:23:08.020
I believe her, she's trustworthy.

00:23:08.281 --> 00:23:09.005
Is she sure?

00:23:09.286 --> 00:23:17.135
Yeah, well, I'm a little mad at her because she's leaving us for a new job, but oh, that's beside the point, I'll still appreciate her phone and everything.

00:23:17.135 --> 00:23:20.509
No, we are really sad that she's leaving.

00:23:20.509 --> 00:23:26.251
She's been great, but she's got a really sweet offer and that's where Tremendously happy for her as a person.

00:23:26.251 --> 00:23:34.269
But in a selfish way yeah, cuz she, she kicked butt, she was great, great so is she a student or a former student?

00:23:34.971 --> 00:23:52.236
No, she came in just right at the start of pandemic stuff, just before she was referral by someone else, and she's one of our help desk technicians Okay yeah but she did run our, she built up our work, study technician program and all the training and really Knocked it out of the park and and did a great job.

00:23:52.396 --> 00:23:54.425
So yeah, thanks a year For her.

00:23:54.425 --> 00:23:56.271
Yes, understood, understood.

00:23:57.114 --> 00:23:57.375
All right.

00:23:57.375 --> 00:24:00.545
So the new phone sounds like you're pretty happy with it.

00:24:00.545 --> 00:24:02.191
I mean the phone itself.

00:24:02.191 --> 00:24:03.134
You're perfect.

00:24:03.153 --> 00:24:04.038
I love the phone.

00:24:04.038 --> 00:24:04.759
It's just.

00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:05.482
Did you really?

00:24:05.502 --> 00:24:06.025
need to get it?

00:24:06.025 --> 00:24:10.244
Probably not, but you got in here the right it's fine, I'm not disappointed with it.

00:24:10.605 --> 00:24:11.208
I do like it.

00:24:11.208 --> 00:24:14.397
I the rounder edges on this too I.

00:24:14.397 --> 00:24:27.888
It is like I said, naked we have, we can talk about bullstrap in a minute, but after you talk about watchy stuff, but the Edges it's a really.

00:24:27.888 --> 00:24:29.451
It has a really nice.

00:24:29.451 --> 00:24:38.491
I'm gonna sound like a Somalia here now has a nice hand feel Mouthfeel for wine, wine.

00:24:38.531 --> 00:24:40.436
God, that's so pretentious, I can't stand.

00:24:43.865 --> 00:24:44.326
It really.

00:24:44.326 --> 00:24:46.050
Those edges are really really nice.

00:24:46.230 --> 00:25:00.031
Yeah, everyone seems to like that and I think what's probably helped you a good bit with the up sizing to the pro max is that it's lighter and so it is your net weight increase.

00:25:00.031 --> 00:25:09.404
I'd be curious, having I haven't looked it up, to see like how much the 13 Pro was in terms of weight and then what the 15 pro max is and to see how close they are.

00:25:09.404 --> 00:25:18.390
But it's probably has helped out, because my wife has the 14 pro max and that's junkie, like it's got some heft, mm-hmm.

00:25:19.566 --> 00:25:20.146
So this is.

00:25:20.146 --> 00:25:28.563
I held this, you know, when I was trading it in, I held them both Side-by-side, and this is definitely lighter than than that one.

00:25:28.583 --> 00:25:30.589
That's pretty good, but it's still got some heft.

00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:32.195
Yeah, and I do like that.

00:25:32.195 --> 00:25:36.028
You know I don't want it to feel like it's a piece of garbage, right, it does.

00:25:36.028 --> 00:25:37.093
It does feel.

00:25:37.093 --> 00:25:47.277
It does feel very nice, and the fact that the width is roughly the same, I think, makes a big difference too.

00:25:47.597 --> 00:25:47.878
Yeah.

00:25:47.878 --> 00:25:58.089
Ice cream bars, which is yeah, I scream sandwich, candy, bar, whatever they call, so that they're not super big.

00:25:58.089 --> 00:26:00.587
Remember when the seven Okay, what are?

00:26:00.587 --> 00:26:12.076
They caught them, the seven, the big seven, like this yes right, I had that huge, it was massive and but the screen, the screen was big.

00:26:12.076 --> 00:26:14.585
But you that's back when they still had like the home button and everything.

00:26:14.585 --> 00:26:16.211
So you had that on top of the big screen.

00:26:16.211 --> 00:26:19.664
So those are really really big and have this is so case-wise.

00:26:19.664 --> 00:26:21.308
You do not have a case yet.

00:26:22.030 --> 00:26:24.037
No, so funny story.

00:26:24.037 --> 00:26:31.219
Um, I ordered a bullstrap case as talked about in the last show, correct?

00:26:31.219 --> 00:26:36.036
And I Got it and looked at it.

00:26:36.036 --> 00:26:37.063
No, you're a torque.

00:26:37.063 --> 00:26:40.028
I I Ordered the.

00:26:40.028 --> 00:26:43.737
I didn't order one for the 15 pro max, I ordered one for the 15 pro.

00:26:44.587 --> 00:26:46.845
What you bought for years, though, so that makes sense right.

00:26:47.125 --> 00:26:50.154
I well, I just wasn't even looking at, didn't even think twice when I ordered this.

00:26:50.154 --> 00:26:56.996
I have gotten in contact with their customer service, though, and they're brilliant.

00:26:56.996 --> 00:27:01.155
I will say, first of all, the bullstrap case lifetime warranty.

00:27:01.155 --> 00:27:04.576
They will replace it up to twice a year.

00:27:04.576 --> 00:27:09.434
Holy smokes, right Twice, up to twice a year on their warranty.

00:27:09.434 --> 00:27:11.828
You have to send pictures and stuff like that.

00:27:12.170 --> 00:27:19.093
That's okay, man but yeah about this, they were Really cool like they.

00:27:19.093 --> 00:27:21.305
You know I didn't want to return it.

00:27:21.305 --> 00:27:27.018
I needed to do something special to exchange it because they didn't give you the option to exchange for a larger size.

00:27:27.018 --> 00:27:47.237
But I Contacted them via email, took me a couple emails back and forth, but you know I'm sending this you know this new, old one unwrapped back to them and not unwrapped, sorry, still in the box and and they're sending me back the 15 pro max, which is really really nice.

00:27:47.237 --> 00:27:51.429
But they've been a really Charming to deal with.

00:27:51.429 --> 00:27:59.085
And, by the way, I have no sponsors, but I'm perfectly happy to tell it.

00:27:59.085 --> 00:28:01.787
Doesn't say that bullstrap is amazing.

00:28:01.787 --> 00:28:12.161
I also ordered this week because this is kind of crazy I ordered a package of for air tag holders because they were not.

00:28:12.161 --> 00:28:25.362
I guess they're not making them anymore, so I'm getting four for the price of essentially one according to what their old price scheme was From bull strap, nice, nice.

00:28:25.990 --> 00:28:27.435
So yeah, really, really nice stuff.

00:28:27.435 --> 00:28:28.836
So I will have a leather case.

00:28:28.836 --> 00:28:34.816
I tried to go out and buy a fine woven case, just so we could talk about it here.

00:28:35.569 --> 00:28:36.272
It was supposed to be.

00:28:36.272 --> 00:28:38.594
The rage with the kids these days is to talk about that.

00:28:39.471 --> 00:28:43.291
Yeah well you know, I don't believe it until you touch it, so I I.

00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:45.413
Which I saw one.

00:28:45.413 --> 00:28:48.993
Did I tell you that I saw a friend of the show, Gannon's he?

00:28:48.993 --> 00:28:50.309
We met up a couple of weeks before the talk.

00:28:50.309 --> 00:28:51.615
You said he hated it too right.

00:28:51.615 --> 00:28:54.419

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