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Sept. 18, 2023

Apple Event: New Apple Watches & iPhones, Buying Recommendations

Hey there tech enthusiasts! Ready to immerse yourself in a refreshing conversation about the latest Apple watches and iPhones? Good! Because we're about to recap Apple's Wonderlust event and help you understand their features and decide if they're worth your hard-earned money. We kick off with a humorous yet enlightening chat about a Washington Post quiz that questions the necessity of a smart watch. But hey, we love our Apple watches, and we're not afraid to tell you why!

Let's turn the gears a notch; we're diving into the heart of the matter — Apple Series 9 and Ultra 2 watches. We scrutinize privacy concerns with the new Siri features, discuss the double-tap gesture convenience, brighter displays, and new bands (and a new material, FineWoven). We also explore the iPhone 15 and 15 Pro, their new color options, the transition from Lightning to USB-C, and new cameras.

Links from the show:

WaPo: Is a smartwatch right for you? Our quiz can help you decide.
Bullstrap MagSafe iPhone Cases
iOS 17
iPadOS 17
watchOS 10
macOS Sonoma
Apple Watch Series 9
Apple Watch Ultra 2
iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Pro

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Intro Music: Psychokinetics - The Chosen


Show transcripts and episode artwork are AI generated and likely contain errors and general silliness.

Chapters

00:00 - Intro

02:03 - WaPo Smartwatch Quiz

08:41 - Apple Event Recap

11:11 - New Apple Watches

27:58 - New iPhones

44:05 - Apple 2030

46:30 - FineWoven Cases and Such

52:15 - OS Release Dates

53:52 - New iCloud Storage Options

56:56 - Closing

Transcript
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There was a whole event called Wunderlust, after which I wondered what I was supposed to be lusting after.

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And just like that we're back.

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Yep, here we are.

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How'd we get us it's?

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another episode of Basic AF.

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It is.

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It's another episode of Basic AF.

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Tom A, that is Jeff B.

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Yeah, and thank you for being here with us.

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We do appreciate you joining us, as always, if you're new Welcome.

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We're.

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If you're old like us, well, yeah.

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I think that would be young, but I guess we could start there.

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You're fairly new.

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Some people will be like what the hell are you talking about?

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But we do.

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So let's, jeff, get this thing started, shall we?

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Let's kick it off.

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Let's start with this, tom, and then we'll get into the event recap.

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We'll kick this one from the bottom of the list to the top of the list.

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There was a, basically a quiz on the Washington Post that I took and sent you the results of as to whether or not you need a watch, a, you know, one of these fancy pants, watches like we have.

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And guess what, tom, I don't need one.

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According to the results, I could do without an Apple Watch, which you know.

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What's funny about this is I took it twice once with my, with my pre you know, pre-watch, pre-new Apple Watch point of view, and once with my post Apple Watch point of view, and in both cases I don't need an Apple Watch or anything else.

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I don't need a digital anything to do what I'm doing.

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We will, by the way, post a gift linked to that quiz from the Washington Post if you want to take it yourselves and see what's up.

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But I thought it was kind of interesting, not surprising, and guess what?

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I'm still wearing an Apple Watch because I do like the things.

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How long have you?

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had yours now It'll be a year in November, wow, I'm dead.

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Yeah right and time is flying by.

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Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping.

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Don't get us copyrighted to the.

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It's not 15 seconds and plus it's me singing, so good, all right.

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Well, don't get people tuning out there with your singing.

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Steve Miller band's not listening to us at this point.

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They'd be grateful.

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Although, man, they're making bank still off of that.

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They are.

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They're still playing.

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The royalty is whoever owns the royalty rights to it.

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I suppose Steve Miller.

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He's not dead, is he?

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Oh, I don't know.

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I mean, I'm sure a lot of the modern stars are selling off their rights for like 200, 250 mil.

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They're like give me the cash while I can get it.

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Yeah, well, I wonder what they know yeah.

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Well, that is better to have money in your hand than to wait for residuals.

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Especially these days with.

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Ask any actor who's on strike or any writer who's on strike right now how much their residual checks are for streaming services.

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Yup Bupkiss, baby Bupkiss.

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That's it Found.

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As much as we get for this podcast.

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Oh yeah, well, we're not on strikes, friends.

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We're here performing because we are performers, no matter what.

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Correct, yeah, correct.

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We're here for the pleasure.

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Yup, and so I did the quiz.

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Yup, and, not surprisingly, it was like oh, you seem to like health and fitness, it'd be great for you.

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I was like you know what a surprise Health and fitness for the guy who's building a gym in this garage yes, but you know what's funny, the first go around with that it's like do you have a smart watch now?

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And I was like, yes, I do, do you like it?

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Yes, I do.

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And then it immediately went to you do not need a smart watch.

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I was like well, wait, we're not done.

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Yeah, wait, I don't need one, because I have one, I get it, I get it.

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I get it Because initially I thought oh, maybe it's like a gag quiz and it just tells everybody like nope, don't need it.

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No, it was.

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I mean, it was interesting because if I really look at what the you know, I answered all those questions honestly, both pre-watch and post-watch, and I really don't need one Need is a you know the things that they say that you really, you know might want it for, which is not just the fitness stuff.

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So and that's really kind of what I'm using.

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I think they mentioned like notifications and not using your phone as much and stuff like that, which.

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I selected yes for all that because, like I don't know if you've done this like well, you know where I know, when you first got it, you weren't wearing it all the time.

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Like you were wearing it a lot, but not all the time, I think.

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Yeah, I don't wear it to bed, so I'm not using any of the sleep features, and I do wear it pretty much every day.

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You know, even when I'm lounging around the house reading a book or doing something like that.

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I'll tell you what books I'm reading, because those might be getting my heart rate up.

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Well, maybe it's magazines.

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I don't.

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Anyway the you know I sometimes will forget to put it on immediately when I get up in the morning, but it's not.

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It's not a huge deal for me.

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I am happy to have it, but it needed and I think that's a fair point about that particular.

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That particular quiz is do you need a smartwatch?

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I probably don't need one, and could I like if somebody said you have to take it off your wrist, you know, as they used to say, when I was in you know church school camp, somebody came with a gun and said you didn't go to church camp, did you?

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You're not, you're not.

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There's not that picture of recognition.

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They always used to say to us, if you come in, if somebody came in with a gun and said you need to either give up Jesus, or give up, you know, or or lose your life.

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What would you do?

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You know it's like dang dude.

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That was serious for kids.

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Right, yeah, it was like.

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Bible school and we made crafts and stuff.

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It was.

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It was much more chill than that.

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Right Now.

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For me it wasn't so chill.

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You see the old, yeah, it was like middle school.

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Anyway, if somebody came in with a gun and said you need to get rid of your Apple watch, or get shot in the head and hear you can have my.

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Apple watch.

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Well, there were a couple of days this week I've probably been like, well, give me a second, but it's Friday, we're through all that.

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But the reason I asked if you were the biggest thing for me with the watch is like I've gotten so used to the phone being quiet all day, like not from the notifications and things, and obviously I could have just tuned that up on the phone and and taken care of a lot of that stuff.

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But but I have, you know, I've had it a long time and now I've just kind of I'm very accustomed to it.

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And Tim Apple said in the intro to the to the event there the other day they were going to talk about it in a minute, but he said that you know they're key components over lives, and I'm paraphrasing a bit.

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But he was like and I bet if you left one at home you'd go back and get it.

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And he's right, cause I've done that.

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Have you?

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Oh yeah, If I left it at home.

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I would not go and get it, and I went back and got it.

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I did it one day and I didn't go back and get it, and then the next time I did go back and get it cause I couldn't take it.

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I was like this this, this phone is driving me nuts.

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Really yeah, so I have all my notifications turned off anyway.

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So except for me and for the most part of my watch.

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So it's, you know it's a watch that collects data on me.

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So great it does.

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Yeah, I did.

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That's a whole other thing.

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Yes, yes so all right.

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So, anyway, that's that.

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So we'll have that.

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But just so everybody knows, there'll be a gift, a Wapo link in the, in the, in the show notes, that you can go and see if you really need an Apple watch as well.

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And speaking of Apple watches, tom, there was a new one released.

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There was Want to talk about it.

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Sure, the whole event.

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There was a whole event called Wonderlust, after which I wondered what I was supposed to be lusting after.

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You know me both, my friend.

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No, it's good job.

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It.

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Yeah, it it wasn't the best Apple event we've had, but, like we said the other day, that Not all of them are super hype train and.

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Nor, nor should they be.

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And To be frank, in our last show, you know, you asked me what I'm looking forward to and you know I said I'm not much and I'm not expecting much.

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And guess what?

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I got what I expected.

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Yeah it was disappointed.

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It's usual.

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No, it was.

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It was you know Cool phone.

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I ordered mine.

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I told you I was gonna.

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Anyway, that wasn't a thing, I ordered mine today Um you were still 13, right.

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I want a 13 in you know time.

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It's pristine.

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By the way, everybody wants by 13.

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It's brand frigging spanking new.

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But I I ordered a new one and I, you know I knew that I was gonna do that and my son's gonna do the same thing.

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You know he's gonna hop off and he's gonna pick his up, I think on Friday, because he's now in LA, so he'll go and and grab one day of but the.

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I Wasn't expecting too much.

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Cool titanium, great colors, you know.

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All right, you said the yellow would look like it had been sitting in some smokers.

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Jason Snell posted pictures, yeah, and it's right up for his hands-on stuff that he did and and he had a picture of the yellow one from.

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You know, looking at the back and, Like most of the phone, look fine, but it was that bump out around the camera and, like the yellow it did, it looked like it had been sitting in the, the smokers lounge or at the bowling alley in 1976 for about three weeks.

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That's when the aliens brought the tech here originally could be.

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But, yeah, so, yeah, so go ahead.

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Anyway, they're back to, back to watch land.

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Since we started with watches, there are two, yeah, two, new watches that have been released.

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There's a Apple series, a watch series nine in the ultra to, apple watch ultra to, and not anything particularly significant in terms of Advancement, if you will, I think there are a couple of nice things.

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You've got sirion device for all of them, so, rather than the usual, you know, hold on while I get the answer, hold having trouble connecting to the answer.

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Yeah, that a lot of that's gonna get get handled locally on the device itself, which is great.

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You know that.

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Actually, speaking of privacy concerns, is is something that you know.

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Apple's decent with privacy, but God knows what they'll be in the future In in you know what may or may not be sold off, but at present you know they're decent.

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But the fact that that, siri, your questions are gonna be handled on board the device that you're using is Significant.

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That means, first of all, processing time should be faster.

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We'll say it would be more reliable, because it's not Well for the queries that it can perform on device without needing to go across the internet to Figure out they said what's my name?

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I'm liable, yeah.

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Yeah, notice, they didn't say accurate, they just said reliable.

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Whatever that means, yeah, but also gets access to health data so you can have Siri log workouts, or do I think they Chose someone logging their body weight like or was in one of the slides?

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Maybe it was like Siri.

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My body weight is 125 and it puts it into the health app.

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I mean, all those little conveniences are nice, yeah.

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I, you know it's kind of interesting to maybe, maybe you can I don't track any of this stuff in health presently, but nor will I be doing it on my watch but you should be able to then, I would presume, say you know, I had a bowl oatmeal with walnuts and milk and In a banana for breakfast or something like that, and it should be able to add that.

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I would think as well, if it has access, you know, to that and I don't know whether that's true or not, you know?

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if it wasn't Siri, I'd say I probably could.

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Did you see the Story that they're spending a ton of money for, like the next gen Siri that's supposed to come out next year?

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Oh no, I didn't.

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Yeah, thank you, I don't know when was that that was on.

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I can't remember who reported it.

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I saw it on one of the rumor site, mac rumors 95.

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But yes, it looks.

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The rumor mill says big security, security chase, big Siri update is is out there sometime in the next year or two.

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Yeah, we'll see them.

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You know which?

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I've kind of felt that that Makes sense because they're doing nothing with it now.

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No, and so it's like okay, they've got to know it's not great.

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We've talked about that a bunch.

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So, you know, maybe this is like the next gen and then at the developer conference next year, which should probably still heavily focused on an Apple vision pro, because that's coming out.

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They did give an update on that too.

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Tim Apple said they're still on track to ship that early next year.

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Yes, so that'll be Still on its way.

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So keep saving up your pennies, everybody, and I'm gonna come over to your house, tom.

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I'm Got a gym to build.

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Maybe this is about half price and research purpose.

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Well, we are planning to get one, at least sounds coming down.

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I'll let you know.

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Come on by, I'll take a drive, we'll do a show from the office or something.

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I can stand in the middle of a field somewhere and play, you know.

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And let's see.

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So what else did they do with the series 9?

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They Brighten the screen, so it's 2000 nits, which I believe is what the ultra one is that we have, which?

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is great, so that should be a nice nice little bump.

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And let's talk about that new gesture.

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They showed the double tap.

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Yeah, tap, tap with your little fingers to make it to magic which, by the way, is already available on your watch if you have that with negligibly good.

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So this apparently is gonna be tracking that better.

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But the nice thing about it, if it works as advertised, is In, and I find this actually all the time when I'm cooking, you know I'll set a timer or two.

00:15:50.196 --> 00:15:59.409
I mean it's beauty of the watch, you know, get the get serious to set a couple of timers so you have a couple of things going at a that are kicking off at different times.

00:15:59.409 --> 00:16:08.828
But half the time I get my fingers full of stuff when a timer goes off and then it's wash my hands and go, reach and grab it or goop up my watch and handle it.

00:16:08.828 --> 00:16:11.594
That way this new feature allows you to tape.

00:16:11.594 --> 00:16:13.677
Here's a tip, okay.

00:16:15.261 --> 00:16:16.586
Use the tip of your nose.

00:16:16.586 --> 00:16:21.792
Oh God Works great, I'm sure it does it does, you don't have to wash your hands on.

00:16:22.139 --> 00:16:28.206
Just look at my nose in profile here and you're just giving me crap because, bro, I got the same thing.

00:16:28.225 --> 00:16:29.683
Man, I'm telling you it works.

00:16:29.683 --> 00:16:32.868
So that's why you know it works.

00:16:32.868 --> 00:16:34.684
This is what I do for you, jeff.

00:16:34.684 --> 00:16:39.885
I do all these weird random tests and report back to enhance your life.

00:16:39.885 --> 00:16:41.590
Great, excellent.

00:16:41.590 --> 00:16:43.052
I don't need the two fingers, all right.

00:16:43.052 --> 00:16:44.802
I'm just describing that gesture.

00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:53.807
You can tap two fingers together, and tapping those two fingers together will actually do a couple of things.

00:16:53.807 --> 00:16:55.424
Some it will walk you through.

00:16:55.424 --> 00:17:05.665
Can potentially walk you through the various fields on whatever's on your screen, but it will stop a timer or answer a phone or do a number of other things.

00:17:05.665 --> 00:17:11.925
So hands full and you need to be able to answer the phone or do something like that.

00:17:11.925 --> 00:17:14.347
That little double finger tap Pretty cool.

00:17:14.347 --> 00:17:19.392
So we'll see a new gesture for Apple Watch that is built in.

00:17:19.392 --> 00:17:21.086
It is not backwards compatible.

00:17:21.086 --> 00:17:27.007
This is only going to be in the new Apple Watch Ultra 2 and in the Apple Watch Series 9.

00:17:27.808 --> 00:17:46.613
Right, and we were talking about that the other day because when we were messaging back and forth when the event was going on, I was like, well, you said that's very interesting and then I was like I feel like that was a thing Like in one of the dot updates for WatchOS 8, maybe that they put that in there and they did.

00:17:46.613 --> 00:18:03.086
But I think, like you alluded to there a couple of minutes ago, that the S9 chip and I think some of that stuff they've got built in there will make it more reliable, because you can go into accessibility in the watch settings now and they've got those gestures that you can go in and there's a double tap in there.

00:18:03.086 --> 00:18:03.602
You can do it.

00:18:04.980 --> 00:18:08.246
Like you said, it's hit or miss and so I suspect yeah, you said, your son turned it on.

00:18:08.246 --> 00:18:10.233
He did it was junk.

00:18:10.940 --> 00:18:12.443
Well, it's one of the.

00:18:12.443 --> 00:18:22.324
I think it's great that they've put it in there before now and because, for the people that need that, I think that's fantastic.

00:18:22.324 --> 00:18:23.628
Yeah, absolutely.

00:18:23.628 --> 00:18:33.670
But I think it's one of those that needs some tuning, and it sounds like they're tuning the sensors and processors and things like that to make it more reliable, more usable.

00:18:33.670 --> 00:18:37.584
So they're pushing all that stuff in the right direction and, if I remember, correctly.

00:18:37.604 --> 00:18:50.869
It is paying attention now to blood pressure changes and changes in what's going on, to detect the actual risk when you're doing it, as opposed to maybe it wasn't, as I don't know.

00:18:50.869 --> 00:19:00.853
I don't know how it worked previously, but this is something new, so we'll see how it works.

00:19:00.853 --> 00:19:04.704
I'm not going to see, because I'm not going to get an S9, nor am I going to get an Ultra II.

00:19:04.704 --> 00:19:07.759
That's not happening to me.

00:19:07.859 --> 00:19:09.185
Yeah, my son wants to get a new watch.

00:19:09.185 --> 00:19:10.664
He's been using my series four.

00:19:11.207 --> 00:19:11.749
Yeah, OK.

00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:16.290
And so he may get one come Christmas time or something.

00:19:16.290 --> 00:19:17.031
So I'll have him try it.

00:19:17.031 --> 00:19:17.782
We'll see what it looks like.

00:19:17.782 --> 00:19:22.230
I'm sure we'll see tons of YouTube videos next week, before right, before too long.

00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.305
So yeah, that's interesting, so that's a nice little feature.

00:19:25.305 --> 00:19:37.410
So we talked about 2000 NITs, so a brighter Apple Watch series S9, the Apple Watch Ultra II, also S9 chip.

00:19:37.410 --> 00:19:41.724
3000 NITs, so super D-Duper bright in daylight.

00:19:41.724 --> 00:19:49.586
And then there is a new watch face which I'm very happy to point out.

00:19:49.586 --> 00:20:02.839
If you're on any of the betas or when the new release of iOS comes out probably next week sometime, maybe the week after that, that, if you have an Apple Watch Ultra, that's available to you.

00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:03.865
It's really nice watch face.

00:20:03.865 --> 00:20:17.593
It's again very, very complicated in terms of what's on here and I haven't updated a lot of things, but it's a pretty nice look as far as new watch faces go.

00:20:17.593 --> 00:20:36.185
So my complaint last episode about the fact that after I was playing around with betas for a little bit that I didn't need Charlie Brown and Snoopy or the other I can't remember what the other name of the other one was, but this is kind of a nice addition.

00:20:36.185 --> 00:20:39.449
I like this, but, again, only available for Apple Watch Ultra.

00:20:39.750 --> 00:20:40.553
So not going to be.

00:20:40.553 --> 00:20:48.550
And they said in the event, I kind of had my ire a little bit they said it's an exclusive, yes, modular Ultra.

00:20:48.550 --> 00:20:50.346
And I was like you've got to be kidding.

00:20:50.579 --> 00:20:51.625
Yeah, that would have been kind of a bonus.

00:20:51.625 --> 00:20:52.584
It's a horrible salty about that.

00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:53.903
I complained to you about it.

00:20:53.903 --> 00:20:55.307
Yes, you did, I did.

00:20:55.307 --> 00:20:57.502
I complained a lot this week and I'm trying to stop.

00:20:57.502 --> 00:21:07.663
No, you're not, but people were quick to show on Reddit and other places that if you were running the latest phone beta, latest watch beta, that it was in fact there's.

00:21:07.663 --> 00:21:08.287
Hopefully it'll stay.

00:21:08.287 --> 00:21:10.826
Maybe they made a mistake and they're going to take it out?

00:21:10.885 --> 00:21:11.909
I hope not, because I like it.

00:21:11.909 --> 00:21:14.227
I'm using it and I mean, why would they do that?

00:21:14.227 --> 00:21:16.067
You know, why would they knock it out?

00:21:16.067 --> 00:21:45.833
I will say that the other thing that's nice about this is it's hard to show you here, but on the old version of the modular watch face that they had originally for the Apple Watch Ultra, you could change it so it was red at night and colorful during the day, but to do that you had to turn the dial to make it change.

00:21:45.833 --> 00:21:52.643
Well, in this case it's using the ambient light sensor that's already in the watch and it is actually.

00:21:52.643 --> 00:21:54.048
It changes when it gets dark.

00:21:54.048 --> 00:21:55.325
So it's a really nice feature.

00:21:55.325 --> 00:21:56.228
I kind of like it.

00:21:56.228 --> 00:21:59.486
I didn't like to have it on all the time because then you have to think about turning it off.

00:21:59.486 --> 00:22:02.548
The fact that it kind of does it on its own is brilliant.

00:22:02.548 --> 00:22:12.549
It works really well and when I have my hand down in the Jeffrey Dahmer's basement it does go to that reddish color.

00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:13.786
So that's a really nice feature.

00:22:13.786 --> 00:22:14.984
I like that about that.

00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:20.188
I'm kind of surprised that some feature like that doesn't show up on other watch faces.

00:22:20.188 --> 00:22:35.964
It doesn't feel like it needs to be just a yeah, as we've said before, it doesn't seem like we know, tim Apple, that you're listening to us.

00:22:35.964 --> 00:22:45.451
One of the things that there's no reason that Apple can't pop out a couple of watch faces a quarter, just for giggles.

00:22:45.451 --> 00:22:49.002
I mean it would just be as like here's part of the update Get a new watch face.

00:22:49.002 --> 00:22:53.049
It seems such a simple crowd pleaser.

00:22:53.049 --> 00:22:54.182
I do get you.

00:22:54.182 --> 00:22:57.287
Don't want to complicate everything with a million complicate Notice I use complications.

00:22:57.287 --> 00:23:04.869
Yeah, well done Convocations, but yeah, I'm a hot mess, but it I don't know.

00:23:04.869 --> 00:23:12.125
It makes sense just to add a little joy in that way throughout the year a couple of times.

00:23:12.125 --> 00:23:19.605
But I guess the other side of it is they've never really done that with wallpapers and things like that you get the wallpaper that comes with the.

00:23:19.786 --> 00:23:25.440
you know the OS that you're working with and have a nice year and so that's kind of where we're at.

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:35.064
Yeah, it's kind of funny for a company that makes such I don't know kind of cool and fun products and they're kind of boring.

00:23:35.925 --> 00:23:36.346
Sometimes.

00:23:36.346 --> 00:23:39.354
The colors will get to the colors on the phones here in a few minutes.

00:23:39.354 --> 00:23:40.276
But what colors?

00:23:40.276 --> 00:23:43.050
Yeah, yeah, spoiler.

00:23:43.050 --> 00:23:47.277
So yeah, I wish they would do more with the faces too.

00:23:47.277 --> 00:23:49.125
But the way it is what it is right.

00:23:49.125 --> 00:23:53.005
We did get some new bands as part of the new watches.

00:23:53.005 --> 00:23:57.817
Of course, you can also get the bands separately some new band colors for the ultra.

00:23:57.817 --> 00:24:02.494
So I think that's what I was looking forward to Last show when we talked about it.

00:24:02.494 --> 00:24:03.924
As it's a little preview, we did.

00:24:03.924 --> 00:24:08.931
I'm Going to try not to buy one.

00:24:10.326 --> 00:24:10.926
I've got another.

00:24:11.087 --> 00:24:17.672
I've got another project that I could put $100 towards, and maybe after that's done, To buy a barbell.

00:24:17.672 --> 00:24:23.297
Barbell yeah, barbell is about 240 so.

00:24:23.297 --> 00:24:27.874
So let's see watch band half barbell.

00:24:29.746 --> 00:24:37.869
Anyhow, anything else on the watch is no yeah, there I think important to note no new watch colors.

00:24:37.869 --> 00:24:40.038
A lot of people gonna be not too happy about that.

00:24:40.038 --> 00:24:41.644
I think they wanted some darker versions.

00:24:42.405 --> 00:24:45.731
Yeah, we're pink on the s9 on right.

00:24:45.731 --> 00:24:55.825
I'm sorry on the other two people were that space, gray or black or the darker color, yeah, which will probably look really nice on the ultra watch three yeah, that's coming.

00:24:55.825 --> 00:25:04.576
I mean I can't imagine and they won't eventually do it, but when they need to go sales they'll do it Right and, who knows, they might already have one of those up their sleeve.

00:25:04.717 --> 00:25:06.260
I mean, these are titanium, right?

00:25:06.260 --> 00:25:16.917
Yeah, so yeah, and it's holding you've seen that there are some colors Titanium, wise, yeah, when it comes to and I will say the titanium is holding up very well.

00:25:16.917 --> 00:25:18.852
Yeah, I you know what.

00:25:18.852 --> 00:25:21.625
Now I'm gonna keep my mouth shut, but no scratches, no anything.

00:25:22.145 --> 00:25:26.198
Yeah, and I've clunked it good a couple of times and I'm like, but nothing.

00:25:26.337 --> 00:25:28.484
So I think part of it being flat.

00:25:28.885 --> 00:25:37.362
Yeah, it makes a huge difference, yeah and I think it looks great when it's flat, because you don't get all the light Refractions and stuff from the you know the lights in the sun and all that stuff.

00:25:37.362 --> 00:25:38.144
I think it looks really great.

00:25:38.144 --> 00:25:54.505
So maybe the rumors for the series 10 Watch next year that it's gonna have like a big redesign, so maybe they'll bring the flat face down to it at that point yeah, we'll see, yeah, so anyway, it's a couple apple watches buying recommendations Jeff.

00:25:56.578 --> 00:26:00.974
I Don't need watch, not for you.

00:26:03.125 --> 00:26:05.653
Wapo said you don't need to watch man right, that's what I'm saying.

00:26:05.732 --> 00:26:07.057
If you need to buy one, jeff has it.

00:26:07.057 --> 00:26:07.586
He doesn't need it.

00:26:07.586 --> 00:26:08.650
He'll sell you on cheap.

00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:13.893
Yeah, no, I you know I'm happy with the, with the ultra.

00:26:13.893 --> 00:26:15.678
Whether or not anybody else needs that, I don't know.

00:26:15.678 --> 00:26:19.356
They're both gonna be nice watches.

00:26:19.356 --> 00:26:20.704
If you need to watch, take the quiz.

00:26:21.205 --> 00:26:23.010
Yeah, take the quiz and we'll have it in the notes.

00:26:23.010 --> 00:26:36.549
I think if you are coming from a Series five or older and we're just looking to get a new watch, you know, figure out if you want series nine or the ultra.

00:26:36.549 --> 00:26:41.567
That's partly style, is partly what you do partly and whatever, and it's personal, think mm-hmm.

00:26:41.567 --> 00:26:45.224
I think it's a great update to go from a five.

00:26:46.607 --> 00:26:51.898
To a nine mm-hmm if you're on a six, maybe maybe you want just a bigger screen or something.

00:26:51.898 --> 00:26:54.914
Maybe you had like a 38 and you want to go up to a 45 or something like that.

00:26:54.914 --> 00:27:03.376
If you're seven or eight, I would wait, because with that rumored big update coming next year, I would just limp along with that.

00:27:03.376 --> 00:27:10.287
Now, challenge there sometimes gets to be battery life starts to suck after three or four years and so.

00:27:11.445 --> 00:27:11.866
Can you get?

00:27:11.866 --> 00:27:13.490
You can get batteries changed on the watch.

00:27:13.711 --> 00:27:14.653
I think so.

00:27:14.653 --> 00:27:16.337
Yeah, I think they just give you another one.

00:27:16.337 --> 00:27:21.750
Yeah, but yeah but if you're already.

00:27:21.750 --> 00:27:34.666
Like you already have the ultra, I'd see no reason to get the ultra oh no, there's no way, I've seen people say they're doing it just because they want to and that's fine, like if that's your thing, like you don't, you know, for whatever reason, you just like to buy the new stuff, do it, I don't care.

00:27:34.928 --> 00:27:41.538
Yeah, doesn't, but for the common person is just wondering if it's time to upgrade and they're on kind of in that middle section.

00:27:41.538 --> 00:27:42.508
I would say wait.

00:27:42.508 --> 00:27:44.134
Yeah, I think that.

00:27:44.173 --> 00:27:47.729
That's a that's very fair.

00:27:48.451 --> 00:27:50.155
All right, so the watches are done.

00:27:50.155 --> 00:27:52.450
We're done with watches, tom.

00:27:52.450 --> 00:27:53.615
Where to next?

00:27:54.786 --> 00:27:56.512
Well, let's talk about the iPhone.

00:27:56.512 --> 00:27:58.327
Let's do it.

00:27:58.548 --> 00:28:02.280
Iphone 15 and 15 pro woohoo, what a surprise.

00:28:02.280 --> 00:28:03.464
More from 14 to 15.

00:28:03.464 --> 00:28:05.311
Even I can count that.

00:28:05.311 --> 00:28:12.767
So we've got the regular 15 gets the Dynamic Island.

00:28:12.767 --> 00:28:23.173
Yeah it has 4k 60 HDR video, a 16 bionic chip.

00:28:23.173 --> 00:28:26.750
Yes 2x telephoto.

00:28:27.786 --> 00:28:27.946
Yeah.

00:28:30.227 --> 00:28:30.807
You USB-C?

00:28:30.807 --> 00:28:31.910
How about?

00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:32.632
that, thank you.

00:28:32.632 --> 00:28:34.375
It has USB-C right.

00:28:34.375 --> 00:28:57.157
And, and what was interesting to note and I don't think that I knew this before the, before the Wunderlust kicked out, I don't, I don't think I knew that that there was no USB bus on these things that they needed, that they needed to add that to the chip.

00:28:57.157 --> 00:29:01.851
So that Clarifies some things for me, if you will.

00:29:01.851 --> 00:29:12.644
It makes it a little clearer that that it did need something special in order to be able to go from lightning to to USB-C.

00:29:12.644 --> 00:29:23.958
So it wasn't merely you know they're dorky and didn't want to, didn't want to use the cable, or they really they really did need to do something, and so there's data transfer capabilities possible.

00:29:24.118 --> 00:29:29.554
Yes, yes, I think it's USB 3 speeds, at least on the pro.

00:29:29.554 --> 00:29:39.785
I'm not sure about the 15 camera call, so, but if you're doing video, they kind of focused on that too, that you can more on the problem.

00:29:39.785 --> 00:29:46.294
We'll get to that in a minute, but yeah that you can use the USB-C for the data transfer.

00:29:46.294 --> 00:29:50.614
Yeah, they've got Five colors of the 15.

00:29:51.396 --> 00:29:53.605
Yeah, they're interesting colors.

00:29:53.605 --> 00:29:59.557
They're very, very soft palette pastels other than the yeah, the black one.

00:29:59.557 --> 00:30:05.576
So we've got pink, yellow, green, blue and some new finish technique.

00:30:05.596 --> 00:30:11.684
They Went on about for a minute or so about how the color is fused into the glass and it doesn't look like it's painted on.

00:30:11.684 --> 00:30:12.646
It's actually in the glass.

00:30:12.707 --> 00:30:13.690
I'm like well it's kind of cool.

00:30:13.690 --> 00:30:18.919
It makes it look like you've been smoking for 20 years with you have the other one.

00:30:19.586 --> 00:30:20.528
We'll see some more pictures.

00:30:20.528 --> 00:30:22.556
Maybe that was just a weird lighting or something might.

00:30:23.665 --> 00:30:27.496
It might have been under fluorescent light, which never does anything good, no, no.

00:30:28.345 --> 00:30:31.171
It's got a 48 pixel mega mega camera.

00:30:31.171 --> 00:30:33.656
Yeah, 48 mega pixel main cameras on.

00:30:33.656 --> 00:30:39.730
I'm trying to say so that's good that 2000 nits came up again.

00:30:39.730 --> 00:30:42.817
Yeah, it's got a nice bright screen it does, which is great.

00:30:43.727 --> 00:30:45.628
Really great, so that's a.

00:30:45.628 --> 00:30:46.311
That's a good thing.

00:30:46.311 --> 00:30:51.045
We've got roadside assistance via satellite on this now too.

00:30:51.045 --> 00:30:52.209
I don't think the 14 had that.

00:30:52.209 --> 00:30:52.911
Did it, or did it?

00:30:52.911 --> 00:30:53.834
Maybe the 14 did?

00:30:54.034 --> 00:30:54.275
or not.

00:30:54.275 --> 00:31:01.215
Only I want to say it was SOS but not the roadside assistance piece.

00:31:01.215 --> 00:31:03.625
Yeah well, roadside assistance is actually new.

00:31:04.588 --> 00:31:08.446
All together right, right, but I don't know if the base for to the base no.

00:31:08.528 --> 00:31:10.032
I think it was just the 14 pro.

00:31:10.173 --> 00:31:11.720
Yeah, so they brought that down in general.

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.748
Yeah, that's in this one, which is great.

00:31:13.748 --> 00:31:16.644
You know, it's a nice feature that, if you yeah.

00:31:16.964 --> 00:31:30.676
They went on with that for a couple minutes to kick off the show, the videos with the folks who had used the SOS feature on On the watch or the the phone, I guess for yeah which I'm gonna confess, um, that that made me tear up a little bit.

00:31:30.717 --> 00:31:38.659
I like that was a really you know, that was a really kind of sweet way of talking about what this technology has done.

00:31:38.659 --> 00:31:54.237
You know, from the perspective of the watch and the phone, you know being able to in some cases, tell people that they need pacemakers, or you know somebody gets lost in the weeds somewhere and they can use the phone to get found.

00:31:54.237 --> 00:32:00.125
I mean, that's, that's some pretty amazing technology that I hope I never have to use.

00:32:00.125 --> 00:32:06.759
Yeah, good to have, but really amazing to have yeah they touched on the crash detection.

00:32:07.786 --> 00:32:13.518
Yeah coming up big two and I know there's there been some stories of that being triggered on roller coasters and stuff.

00:32:13.518 --> 00:32:18.875
But I think overall that's a, that's a, that's a win yeah.

00:32:20.246 --> 00:32:28.690
Yeah, so, yeah, so pretty good Matt texture finish on on them, so Probably grippier.

00:32:28.690 --> 00:32:35.394
And then you know the usual case business, which will get on the case's case in a few moments.

00:32:35.394 --> 00:32:43.010
But yeah, it's a Nice little update again, if you have a current model, I don't think there's any like.

00:32:43.010 --> 00:32:52.239
If you have a 14, I don't know that there's any real need to to make the jump, unless that's the thing you do, that thing you do.

00:32:52.506 --> 00:32:53.790
Mm-hmm, and they're dropping the mini.

00:32:53.790 --> 00:32:56.794
So, like the 13 mini, yes, no more.

00:32:56.794 --> 00:33:00.458
Which friend of the show, ganon, who was on a couple of times with this?

00:33:00.458 --> 00:33:04.813
That was his phone of choice, and so it was he was a little disappointed in that.

00:33:05.094 --> 00:33:06.156
I've seen a couple of those.

00:33:06.156 --> 00:33:08.410
Is it a mini or it's the SE?

00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:09.634
They called it that was the SE.

00:33:09.634 --> 00:33:10.836
Yeah, I don't.

00:33:12.026 --> 00:33:20.137
Feel like there was the mini and there was an SE, but the mini is the one that they they dropped, which was the smallest of the form factors.

00:33:20.137 --> 00:33:21.703
If you want to look it up there, we'll confirm that.

00:33:21.703 --> 00:33:24.875
But so, yeah, he was a little bummed about that, but he's gone.

00:33:24.875 --> 00:33:36.314
15 pro is what he told me today, got his order and, after the usual high jinks trying to get that, you know when the order system comes up and it's you know.

00:33:36.314 --> 00:33:42.217
You think by now this should just be a walk in the park, but they like to keep it exciting.

00:33:42.645 --> 00:33:43.891
Yeah, actually.

00:33:43.891 --> 00:33:47.884
Well, we'll see cuz this might drop off, but presently the SE is still on the site.

00:33:49.030 --> 00:33:57.605
You can still get the SE, okay, I think usually a little bigger I felt like it was screaming was a little bit bigger than the mini fire call maybe, but it, the SE, still has little push button.

00:33:57.885 --> 00:34:03.830
You know it's a, it has a physical, not a physical button, but I Did you button yeah.

00:34:03.830 --> 00:34:06.306
So so what?

00:34:06.306 --> 00:34:19.373
What Apple is selling now is the SE, is the 13, the 14, the 15 and 15 pro, okay, so so yeah, that covers the the price spectrum very well.

00:34:19.373 --> 00:34:28.936
I would think it does se comes in at around, starting at $429, which is, you know, not horrible.

00:34:28.936 --> 00:34:33.875
You know you can spend a whole heck of a lot of money with the 15.

00:34:35.947 --> 00:34:37.675
Then I go up to two terabytes.

00:34:37.675 --> 00:34:38.257
Is that that?

00:34:38.257 --> 00:34:39.525
Did I see that today?

00:34:39.525 --> 00:34:40.769
Can you look that up?

00:34:40.769 --> 00:34:44.125
Maybe like it did, or maybe that was a rumor and it didn't.

00:34:44.125 --> 00:34:46.250
I let me just let's tell me.

00:34:46.451 --> 00:34:49.237
Let me just look at 15 pro max, let me see what I get.

00:34:49.237 --> 00:34:51.190
Yeah, one terabyte one terabyte.

00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:52.052
Yeah, that's still.

00:34:52.072 --> 00:34:55.411
That's still yeah 256, which is the baseline.

00:34:55.411 --> 00:35:04.954
On the pro max, I have 256 of my current and and that's more than enough, really more than what are you going?

00:35:04.994 --> 00:35:05.114
with.

00:35:05.114 --> 00:35:08.019
This time I am doing a 15 pro max.

00:35:08.019 --> 00:35:19.019
I have determined that the camera is worth it and the form factor on this is a little smaller than the current 15 or 14 pro max.

00:35:19.019 --> 00:35:21.668
So it's supposed to be.

00:35:21.668 --> 00:35:24.014
It's lighter and I think it's a little smaller.

00:35:24.014 --> 00:35:26.141
That's what I thought I heard.

00:35:26.141 --> 00:35:35.271
Maybe I'm all wrong, but so yeah, I'm doing a pro, I'm doing a 15 pro max, nice and what stories?

00:35:35.632 --> 00:35:36.675
what storage did you say you got?

00:35:37.277 --> 00:35:39.045
I'm doing baseline to do 56 again.

00:35:39.045 --> 00:35:40.086
I don't, I don't need.

00:35:40.086 --> 00:35:45.097
If you look at my phone right now, my phone has 256 and that is pool linty.

00:35:45.097 --> 00:35:48.494
So and I'm not gonna be filming, you know.

00:35:48.494 --> 00:35:55.525
Special deal but the deal is you can attach an SSD to that thing and it'll spin it right out to it.

00:35:55.525 --> 00:35:56.206
So who cares?

00:35:56.206 --> 00:35:58.092
You know, smaller is better.

00:35:58.092 --> 00:36:08.494
In this case you can, but I'm not gonna be doing the the occasional, you know, video audition.

00:36:08.494 --> 00:36:13.130
But other than that, nothing Too fantastic.

00:36:14.072 --> 00:36:14.454
Yeah.

00:36:14.454 --> 00:36:29.297
So On the pro, yeah, we had a material change, yes to Titanium correct, which, which was broomward and ended up coming true.

00:36:29.297 --> 00:36:32.472
I think that I like that.

00:36:32.472 --> 00:36:34.135
It looks nice, looks really nice.

00:36:34.135 --> 00:36:45.632
And some of the hands-on stuff early on was like it's noticeably lighter, like, yeah, it's not just because sometimes you think, well, it should be a little bit lighter, but it's hard to tell.

00:36:45.632 --> 00:36:47.989
But they were kind of, yeah, this is actually noticeably lighter.

00:36:47.989 --> 00:36:50.516
That's good, because the current ones there they're a little beefy.

00:36:51.195 --> 00:36:51.704
They are beefy.

00:36:51.704 --> 00:36:55.813
You know that'll be an interesting thing to see how I feel about that.

00:36:55.813 --> 00:37:14.574
One of the things I really love about In my current phone is that it feels like something, so we'll see if that, you know, if it's noticeably lighter, I'm sure it's not gonna feel like you know made out of garbage, but Well, recycled garbage, because we're green.

00:37:16.827 --> 00:37:20.650
The uh, he's telling me supposed to laugh out loud at those things.

00:37:20.650 --> 00:37:24.306
You supposed to encourage my horrificness.

00:37:24.306 --> 00:37:28.552
It, uh, it'll be interesting to see what that is.

00:37:28.552 --> 00:37:34.836
It also has new, new glass, I believe that's different than the glass that's on the uh on the 15.

00:37:34.836 --> 00:37:45.947
It has a new ceramic shield which is Supposed to be even More not breakable, right, although God knows, these things still break.

00:37:45.947 --> 00:37:56.543
Three cameras on this one that we have 24 millimeter, 20 millimeter, 35 millimeter.

00:37:56.543 --> 00:37:59.318
So some super zoominess.

00:37:59.318 --> 00:38:08.255
Four levels of zoom, I think, are available, plus the, plus the macro, which will be pretty nice, I'm gonna be interested to see what halide does with these.

00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.717
That's kind of gonna be a Interesting feature.

00:38:12.838 --> 00:38:26.896
Oh, one of the things we didn't say about the 15 which we can say about both of these is that if we have an action button now, the little slider for silence and ring is no longer a Little slider.

00:38:26.896 --> 00:38:33.503
It's a button that you can actually assign to a number of Pre-configured shortcuts.

00:38:33.503 --> 00:38:44.721
Plus, you can set up your own actions, which I think this is gonna be the magic way that I'm able to open up halide with Without, you know, I have to double pat tap the back of the screen.

00:38:44.721 --> 00:38:47.527
Is that gonna sign it to assign it to that?

00:38:47.527 --> 00:38:48.329
So right?

00:38:50.695 --> 00:38:51.358
Yeah, that's that's.

00:38:51.358 --> 00:38:54.688
That's kind of a moved over from the ultra watch.

00:38:54.688 --> 00:38:56.675
Yeah, that's what that has, the action button and.

00:38:58.637 --> 00:38:59.079
Which I love.

00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.922
That on the watch, I mean it's the best way to it.

00:39:00.922 --> 00:39:05.030
I don't have to search around to find the.

00:39:05.030 --> 00:39:13.822
You know, whatever workout that I'm doing, you know hiking, walking, biking, all that stuff, you know just press the button and it's right there.

00:39:13.822 --> 00:39:17.239
So that's a nice, a nice little, nice little feature.

00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:18.722
It is I like that.

00:39:18.764 --> 00:39:24.679
I use that too, so yeah, so it's an a 17 pro.

00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.884
That's gonna be the chip in this.

00:39:27.884 --> 00:39:33.271
Again, usb C with USB 3 in this, in this version.

00:39:33.271 --> 00:39:36.264
So that's a nice, a nice feature promotion.

00:39:36.264 --> 00:39:41.661
Four colors the colors are kind of interesting.

00:39:41.661 --> 00:39:45.429
I got the natural titanium, titanium.

00:39:50.065 --> 00:39:51.088
That's the one I would choose to.

00:39:51.128 --> 00:39:57.068
I like that one yeah and actually when I was ordering my today, actually went to the AT&T store.

00:39:57.068 --> 00:39:57.791
Just did it that way.

00:39:57.791 --> 00:40:03.344
Today went rather than dealing with Apple was out running errands.

00:40:03.344 --> 00:40:05.786
I say it.

00:40:05.786 --> 00:40:09.083
That appears to be the the fave.

00:40:09.083 --> 00:40:11.471
According to to him, a lot of people were in that one.

00:40:11.490 --> 00:40:12.313
All right, there's our boots on the ground.

00:40:12.313 --> 00:40:12.454
Report.

00:40:14.144 --> 00:40:14.547
There you go.

00:40:14.547 --> 00:40:15.170
Woohoo.

00:40:15.291 --> 00:40:20.384
One person told me the natural titanium is where it's at.

00:40:21.286 --> 00:40:23.110
Yeah, so anyway.

00:40:23.110 --> 00:40:25.175
Yes, so they've got what black natural blue and white.

00:40:25.614 --> 00:40:26.516
It is a white.

00:40:26.644 --> 00:40:32.847
Yeah, I don't know that that titanium is white-looking, but right, and it's a little more brushed finish to it.

00:40:32.847 --> 00:40:36.849
So that's kind of interesting.

00:40:36.849 --> 00:40:40.934
Some people are saying it makes them feel like it's brushed aluminum.

00:40:40.934 --> 00:40:45.126
Okay, whatever, it's titanium, so we'll see it.

00:40:45.126 --> 00:40:55.626
Which, if I think about it, if I'm looking at my watch the watch is more matte than brushed, I guess is the way I could say yep, so you know, it's, it's a nice look.

00:40:55.626 --> 00:40:57.833
I think it'll be it'll, it'll be pretty nice.

00:40:57.833 --> 00:41:01.114
I'm looking forward to to see that.

00:41:01.114 --> 00:41:06.273
So, yeah, hopefully I'll get mine when it is supposed to come on Friday, but we'll see.

00:41:06.273 --> 00:41:19.931
Yes, also, there's 5x telephoto on the Pro Max, yes, so I'm not crazy that they've gone back to having different features in the bigger phone versus the smaller pro phone.

00:41:19.971 --> 00:41:26.405
They used to do that back in like the seven days, I think it was, and then they kind of stopped.

00:41:26.405 --> 00:41:27.869
But yeah, whatever, yeah you know?

00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:28.170
I know that's.

00:41:28.170 --> 00:41:32.146
That's the reason I would have stuck with a Pro rather than a pro max.

00:41:32.146 --> 00:41:34.315
Yeah, they gooshed you for some more money is what they did.

00:41:34.476 --> 00:41:35.159
They did and a bigger phone.

00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:35.519
So we'll see.

00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:36.103
Was that I don't?

00:41:36.182 --> 00:41:37.349
think it'll drive me nuts.

00:41:37.349 --> 00:41:37.610
It's not.

00:41:37.610 --> 00:41:40.478
It's not obscenely large.

00:41:40.478 --> 00:41:45.275
It's definitely not as big as they used to be when we had the home button and the screen was still like 6.7.

00:41:45.900 --> 00:41:46.951
It's like, yeah, that was a monster.

00:41:46.951 --> 00:41:49.099
Yeah, like that 12.9.

00:41:49.099 --> 00:42:00.648
The first gen 12.9 inch iPad was huge with that home button and the big bezels and everything, but no, this, this is Gonna be pretty close to what I currently have.

00:42:00.668 --> 00:42:03.197
It's gonna be the latest I currently have.

00:42:03.197 --> 00:42:07.807
It's gonna be a little bit bigger than what I currently have, so I think I can swing it.

00:42:08.076 --> 00:42:10.175
Yeah, be curious to see like when it comes in, send me a pair.

00:42:10.175 --> 00:42:23.396
I want to see how much bigger it is, because I know what the current the but the 14 and pro versus the 14 pro max is, is and it's it's fairly significant like but this wife has that but Anyhow.

00:42:23.416 --> 00:42:24.380
So those are on sale.

00:42:24.380 --> 00:42:26.809
As we record, today is friday, september 15th.

00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:28.474
Yes, they can now be ordered.

00:42:28.474 --> 00:42:31.021
They will start to arrive on the 22nd.

00:42:31.021 --> 00:42:33.637
Same thing for the watches, yeah.

00:42:33.637 --> 00:42:35.360
Um, you know, typical stuff comes out.

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.175
Order friday, get it the next friday, yep.

00:42:38.175 --> 00:42:40.925
Or if you wait too long, you have six or seven weeks to wait.

00:42:42.894 --> 00:42:48.880
But you'll get it, it'll, it'll show up eventually, eventually, um, all right.

00:42:48.880 --> 00:43:01.690
So I guess we've already said, if you're on the fence, not sure if you should upgrade or not, I would say, if your iphone 12 Maybe, it's just probably a good update, just for the Jumps they made in the camera and they always on display, which I like.

00:43:01.690 --> 00:43:04.335
That's going to be new for you, right, because you're only it will be new for me, correct?

00:43:04.454 --> 00:43:06.039
Yeah, and I know when that came out.

00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:07.483
So people were like I don't know if I like it.

00:43:07.483 --> 00:43:08.507
It's kind of distracting.

00:43:08.507 --> 00:43:13.963
I've always liked it, left it on, happy with it, looking forward to using the.

00:43:13.963 --> 00:43:16.429
Uh, the new feature in ios 17.

00:43:16.429 --> 00:43:21.018
Um, when, when you rotate the phone, yeah, or is that for?

00:43:21.038 --> 00:43:22.280
you actually night stand, believe it or not.

00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.088
That even works on my current, my current um 13 right.

00:43:26.954 --> 00:43:27.878
Other than does it stay on?

00:43:27.898 --> 00:43:28.300
all the time.

00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:30.856
It does not stay on all the time, but it will.

00:43:30.856 --> 00:43:36.556
It will go to that at night, if you, uh, if, you plug it in and uh and you're in sleep mode, it will.

00:43:36.556 --> 00:43:38.001
It will do that, like the watch does.

00:43:38.001 --> 00:43:39.005
So, yeah, it's.

00:43:39.005 --> 00:43:40.818
Uh, that'll be interesting.

00:43:40.818 --> 00:43:42.545
I don't keep the phone.

00:43:42.545 --> 00:43:43.791
Sorry, I do keep the phone by my bed.

00:43:43.791 --> 00:43:44.815
I don't keep the watch by my bed.

00:43:44.815 --> 00:43:48.922
I tried that for a couple of weeks, not a yeah, nothing.

00:43:49.063 --> 00:43:52.780
So All right, so that's, that's the new stuff.

00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:53.362
I mean it was.

00:43:53.382 --> 00:43:54.344
That is the new stuff.

00:43:54.403 --> 00:43:55.766
You know it was it was an event?

00:43:55.766 --> 00:44:00.465
Um, yeah, it wasn't anything bad, it's just no.

00:44:01.534 --> 00:44:02.177
It.

00:44:02.177 --> 00:44:10.083
I will say as much as I'm happy that apple does a good job with, you know, remaining carbon neutral and and doing that kind of stuff.

00:44:10.083 --> 00:44:21.338
Um, the whole Skit that they did at the beginning, probably five minutes too long and uh Okay we get it?

00:44:21.338 --> 00:44:23.063
Yeah, we didn't.

00:44:24.096 --> 00:44:25.440
We, that's what I think I said.

00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:32.728
You was like yeah, this is definitely not going to be like packed full of like product information that they took that much time for.

00:44:32.728 --> 00:44:32.889
That.

00:44:32.889 --> 00:44:34.239
It was a, it was filler.

00:44:34.721 --> 00:44:35.625
It definitely was filler.

00:44:35.625 --> 00:44:38.548
I'd rather see more like that.

00:44:38.548 --> 00:44:49.376
The initial video, the one that they started everything off with, with, with how this is done, good stuff, that that skit was Okay.

00:44:49.376 --> 00:44:56.000
You know they brought in a couple of apple tv plus's stars to To, you know, dot the landscape.

00:44:56.501 --> 00:44:58.684
Yeah, I can tell you, any of those people are active.

00:44:58.985 --> 00:44:59.947
Yeah, they're, they're.

00:44:59.947 --> 00:45:06.626
They're the two Main characters the young woman and then mother nature, and then mother nature.

00:45:06.626 --> 00:45:12.677
Uh, those are people who are on a variety of A variety shows.

00:45:12.677 --> 00:45:19.400
One of them was the younger woman, was on curb your enthusiasm for a while and she's great at being horrible.

00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:31.054
He's really like great, it's super annoying, um, so she's, she's good, um, but yeah, there were, I think only you know I, first of all tim, can act, sorry to.

00:45:31.054 --> 00:45:33.137
Yeah, um tim apples.

00:45:33.137 --> 00:45:35.681
Uh, you could barely give the keynote.

00:45:36.163 --> 00:45:40.369
Yeah, you know, and thank you you know and still love you.

00:45:42.195 --> 00:45:54.855
It's not that, um, but definitely not the the kind of energy that has been uh here in the past, and we kind of were missing a couple of people from this particular show.

00:45:54.855 --> 00:45:58.302
Weren't we just craig usually show up in these, or is that I?

00:45:58.342 --> 00:45:59.965
think he's strictly software man.

00:45:59.965 --> 00:46:00.726
So wkc.

00:46:00.766 --> 00:46:02.068
Yeah, but we're software here.

00:46:02.416 --> 00:46:05.224
Um, and then see, he kind of sticks to that, I think.

00:46:05.224 --> 00:46:14.527
And uh is probably the best part of that, he's very entertaining, he is, he's fun, yeah, you know so probably why it gets passed on some of the software not working so great.

00:46:17.396 --> 00:46:20.317
Just a thought yeah, there you go, it's possible, it's possible.

00:46:20.317 --> 00:46:31.786
So, with that, all that carbon neutral stuff they talked about excessively, um, they made the announcement that apple is no longer going to use leather in any of its products and correct accessories.

00:46:31.786 --> 00:46:46.958
Um, you and I have lamented of the poor quality of the leather cases for the phones of late, primarily since they switched, I guess, in the 13 line, whatever it was, when they went to the current Design, before they just switched to the titanium.

00:46:46.958 --> 00:46:52.168
Yeah, it was more of a painted, very thin and just look like crap after about three months.

00:46:52.168 --> 00:46:54.240
Yeah, this I don't know.

00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:56.085
We're really missing much from that.

00:46:56.085 --> 00:46:59.197
The Like.

00:46:59.197 --> 00:46:59.739
I have a couple.

00:46:59.739 --> 00:47:02.117
Well, I have one leather Watch band.

00:47:02.117 --> 00:47:07.193
The leather link, or magnetic, is the magnetic one that clasps together, which I like a lot.

00:47:07.193 --> 00:47:07.635
It's nice band.

00:47:07.635 --> 00:47:12.565
All of those things will be put together now with same thing.

00:47:12.565 --> 00:47:23.420
They've come up with their dubbing, fine woven, and Some of those started to get arrived to people Recently yes, almost immediately.

00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:34.186
Yeah, they ordered them and got them immediately, and majority of their responses have been We'll say to be nice, we'll call it lukewarm, yeah, okay.

00:47:34.186 --> 00:47:43.581
And the common Comment is that this feels cheap, which you don't hear much on Apple products.

00:47:43.940 --> 00:47:50.759
No, and you know what it doesn't feel like leather, you know, and nothing Feels like leather.

00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.003
Leather feels like leather.

00:47:52.143 --> 00:47:54.757
So I don't know.

00:47:54.757 --> 00:47:56.240
I, you, you.

00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:58.327
My intent is to go naked.

00:47:58.327 --> 00:48:01.806
So when we do a live show, that'll be fun.

00:48:01.806 --> 00:48:03.394
I'm gonna be sick that day.

00:48:03.394 --> 00:48:04.481
I.

00:48:05.695 --> 00:48:07.701
Before the live show I'm just not gonna show.

00:48:07.701 --> 00:48:08.864
What if I showed up?

00:48:08.864 --> 00:48:09.927
I'd be sick too, but I'm not.

00:48:12.735 --> 00:48:22.525
But I you did point me to another Company that that makes leather cases, which I did order one in advance.

00:48:22.525 --> 00:48:24.454
So we'll see how that plays out.

00:48:24.655 --> 00:48:26.719
But my intent is to.

00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:35.949
I had for a very, very long time, in fact until I got the 11, I never had a case, never got cases on right.

00:48:35.949 --> 00:48:46.219
With the 11 near the end, I picked up a leather case and surprised myself by how much I liked it, and so I ordered with my 13.

00:48:46.219 --> 00:48:50.039
I ordered the, the leather case, and I've had it.

00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:50.860
It is.

00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:52.264
It's falling apart right now.

00:48:52.264 --> 00:48:53.646
I mean that had two years.

00:48:53.847 --> 00:49:02.563
I guess that's Fair you know to say that it's falling apart, but it's falling apart, so I don't know.

00:49:02.563 --> 00:49:10.248
My intent is to To forget about that and then maybe dress dress it up when I'm going out or doing something like that.

00:49:10.248 --> 00:49:13.722
So we'll, we'll see yeah, that's why I picked up that.

00:49:13.722 --> 00:49:14.644
What was the name of that company?

00:49:14.644 --> 00:49:15.686
By the way, you sent it to me?

00:49:17.014 --> 00:49:17.918
Yeah, I don't know.

00:49:17.918 --> 00:49:23.902
It's in mind bull bull strap, it's something like that dude.

00:49:23.902 --> 00:49:28.637
It's not bull stick, that's what you want.

00:49:28.677 --> 00:49:32.527
Yeah, it's not gonna say we're starting to feel a little bit like a.

00:49:32.527 --> 00:49:35.721
It is bull strap.

00:49:35.721 --> 00:49:40.342
We'll add those guys in there too, why not?

00:49:40.704 --> 00:49:49.306
we'll put those into those guys into the show notes is yeah, I see those like I kind of, when the new phones come out, I kind of geek out on the Mac rumors forums.

00:49:49.306 --> 00:50:02.980
They've got phone case threads and actually we got like a mega thread that goes on and on and on and that that's come up in there and people seem to really like it holds up Well, a classic leather Look and feel and wear and everything.

00:50:02.980 --> 00:50:05.226
So those seem to be pretty popular and there are other ones out there too.

00:50:05.226 --> 00:50:07.664
They're not the only ones, but that's the one that came to mind.

00:50:10.097 --> 00:50:14.778
And I just want to say that the name and it did strike me actually when he said it to me it's a little S&M-y to me.

00:50:16.036 --> 00:50:18.103
Well, we know where Jeff's mind is.

00:50:18.826 --> 00:50:19.929
No, it's not Friday night.

00:50:19.929 --> 00:50:21.394
It's not where my mind is at all.

00:50:21.695 --> 00:50:29.085
I didn't know there and I'm usually the deviant of the bunch is true, but anyhow, I think both of these statements are true.

00:50:29.085 --> 00:50:43.005
Apple is sincere with their climate push and their carbon neutral and they don't want to use leather and all that and Also true, and I have no way to prove it, but I think it's also true.

00:50:43.005 --> 00:50:46.655
Margins on this fine woven stuff are going to be even more.

00:50:47.817 --> 00:50:57.083
Oh, there's no question about that, and it's not just to look how good we are for being climate friendly I think that's part of it but it's like, hey, I can we squeeze a few more pennies margin out of this stuff?

00:50:57.083 --> 00:50:58.286
And if we do that and we spin it.

00:50:58.757 --> 00:50:59.219
It's a win-win.

00:51:00.275 --> 00:51:01.802
Yeah, I, yeah, I've worked corporate.

00:51:01.802 --> 00:51:03.286
I know how this goes right.

00:51:03.507 --> 00:51:08.023
Yeah, you're not, you're not wrong, and you have also mentioned that.

00:51:08.023 --> 00:51:18.168
Uh, you know, yes, very carbon neutral, but you're gonna probably have to buy a couple more cables to pal and you know what do you do with the old ones that you can't use it.

00:51:18.168 --> 00:51:23.007
You already have 50 of right you know you can't, you can't, can't use those anymore.

00:51:23.007 --> 00:51:34.043
So there definitely are things that Apple does that make it so we're by buying these products you're not.

00:51:34.443 --> 00:51:36.994
You know, not to mention how some of this stuff gets sourced.

00:51:38.501 --> 00:51:41.375
Well, well, that was an interesting thing about that as well.

00:51:41.375 --> 00:51:46.608
The the fact that they're doing recycled cobalt for the batteries is really interesting to me.

00:51:46.608 --> 00:51:48.278
It's first time I've heard about that.

00:51:48.278 --> 00:51:58.382
And cobalt and the the mining of cobalt is horrible and it's you know, it is something that Basically uses slave labor.

00:51:58.684 --> 00:52:05.626
Yeah, so let's buy all these electric cars E hey look, we've almost gotten political, so we'll stop Um.

00:52:05.646 --> 00:52:11.440
but yeah, notice who pulled us in that direction.

00:52:11.762 --> 00:52:12.724
That's why I pulled us out too.

00:52:12.724 --> 00:52:22.094
We did get some release dates, my friend, for the new software, yes, ios and iPad OS 17 releases very soon.

00:52:22.094 --> 00:52:28.735
It will be on Monday, september 18th, which is when this show will release, so it could be right around the same time that shows up in your app.

00:52:28.735 --> 00:52:36.760
Mac OS and Noma watch OS 10 will be then too, and TV OS, I imagine as well.

00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.063
Can't remember that one specifically.

00:52:38.063 --> 00:52:38.985
I can tell that TV.

00:52:39.025 --> 00:52:49.677
OS is about to come out, because the thing, the thing that always happens is the the feature that's supposed to allow you to turn on your television Stops working.

00:52:49.838 --> 00:52:53.068
great, yeah and so it's not working excellent arc.

00:52:53.349 --> 00:53:00.673
Arc is what they call it Mac OS and Noma is Is coming out the following week, on September 26th, so that's, that's pretty good.

00:53:00.673 --> 00:53:13.054
There've been some instances where the the iOS stuff comes out and Mac OS kind of lags behind three or four weeks, but this year they're pretty close, so those are very close to being released and we'll talk about that.

00:53:13.054 --> 00:53:17.398
I have not used any of the iOS Betas, so that will all be new for me.

00:53:17.398 --> 00:53:18.521
Watch OS the same, of course.

00:53:18.521 --> 00:53:21.307
So Noma beta I've used a lot and has been pretty good.

00:53:21.739 --> 00:53:22.813
Yeah, I same.

00:53:22.813 --> 00:53:25.942
I mean I've got, I've got betas on everything at this point in time.

00:53:25.942 --> 00:53:29.175
Yeah and it's it's been pretty Solid.

00:53:29.175 --> 00:53:30.619
You know I like them all.

00:53:30.619 --> 00:53:32.041
It's on my watch, it's on.

00:53:32.041 --> 00:53:35.628
That's why I have this fancy new watch face that you don't have.

00:53:35.628 --> 00:53:36.737
Show off.

00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.483
Yep, yeah, yeah, glute, while you can, special clock sticking on that one, yeah, it is.

00:53:42.483 --> 00:53:46.320
And Monday, big news, big news.

00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:52.179
The big news that someone posted on Twitter X, x, twitter.

00:53:52.179 --> 00:54:01.786
Whatever they said, the loudest applause in the theater during the event Was when Apple mentioned the upgraded iCloud storage options.

00:54:01.786 --> 00:54:08.784
So to date, you've been able to get 50 gigs, 200 gigs, two terabytes.

00:54:08.784 --> 00:54:15.878
Yep, of course, you get your five gigs for free, thanks, tim.

00:54:15.878 --> 00:54:24.900
So remember, every time Apple tells you that customers are the most important thing, they show your love with that free five gigs.

00:54:25.141 --> 00:54:29.248
So yeah anyhow, you can get a six terabyte plan.

00:54:29.248 --> 00:54:31.639
Yes and it's off terabyte.

00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:35.028
The six terabyte will be 2999 a month.

00:54:35.028 --> 00:54:37.355
12 terabyte will be 5999 a month.

00:54:37.355 --> 00:54:45.494
I have not seen Anything yet on how that would be factored in to like the subscription Apple one subscription plans.

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:48.141
Yeah, I was wondering about that.

00:54:48.141 --> 00:54:49.346
I haven't seen anything either.

00:54:49.766 --> 00:54:52.434
So and I think we talked about both on the two terabyte plan.

00:54:52.777 --> 00:54:54.929
Pretty comfortably I think yeah, I don't like.

00:54:54.969 --> 00:55:01.307
I still got a terabyte to go, but it is nice for folks that need it to get up to that those larger ones, if they want to use that.

00:55:02.655 --> 00:55:12.112
Well, and especially if you're on family plans, I think that that's the, that's the bigger place where that matters, especially as these phones are starting to take bigger and bigger pictures and everybody's doing their stuff in the cloud.

00:55:12.112 --> 00:55:12.675
That's me.

00:55:14.018 --> 00:55:34.083
It's gonna eat up that space, yeah, and I think it would be nice if and I think they could almost do it at this point with the six and twelve plans coming If they made time machine and iCloud backup service rather than just local drive, because on laptop so few people remember to plug in the drive to back stuff up.

00:55:34.083 --> 00:55:34.844
Yeah.

00:55:35.436 --> 00:55:37.621
And so with those larger capacities.

00:55:37.681 --> 00:55:43.425
That would be an enticing offering, I think, if they just all of a sudden it's time machine and iCloud or whatever they call it.

00:55:43.425 --> 00:55:45.382
It's probably just iCloud backup for Mac.

00:55:46.896 --> 00:55:47.356
That would be nice.

00:55:47.356 --> 00:55:48.721
Yeah, it would be nice.

00:55:48.721 --> 00:55:51.007
I'm gonna say again back plays the way you need to go.

00:55:51.556 --> 00:55:55.978
Yes, and they got a new version coming out, version nine Back plays Okay.

00:55:55.978 --> 00:55:58.686
Yeah, just saw that the other day rolling out this month.

00:55:58.686 --> 00:56:03.226
But the better restore interface, they said nice.

00:56:03.347 --> 00:56:05.934
Yeah, it's still the best did for my money.

00:56:05.934 --> 00:56:07.878
The the very best cloud backup.

00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:08.800
Yeah, it's very good.

00:56:10.003 --> 00:56:15.882
It is very good, unless they Do something different to the architecture for time machine.

00:56:15.882 --> 00:56:28.737
Time machine in the cloud would not be fun, right, yeah, and let's say, unless they do it the way they do it in iOs, then now, yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz I think time machine is very Well.

00:56:28.757 --> 00:56:30.143
It's old, it's been around for a long time.

00:56:30.505 --> 00:56:31.289
Oh, yes, it's great.

00:56:31.289 --> 00:56:32.534
I think it's great, but uh.

00:56:34.043 --> 00:56:40.427
Yeah, but I think, with everything being so mobile, it's just, you know, just make the Mac just like the iOs devices, let them back up to the cloud.

00:56:40.427 --> 00:56:46.007
Yes, I agree, and it's past due to put a cellular chip in Macs as well, so we can get a cellular Mac book.

00:56:46.007 --> 00:56:46.588
That would be great.

00:56:47.876 --> 00:56:48.840
It's an interesting thought.

00:56:49.362 --> 00:56:51.981
Yep, you got them in iPads.

00:56:51.981 --> 00:56:53.105
We should be able to do it, so anyway.

00:56:53.405 --> 00:56:53.565
Yeah.

00:56:53.606 --> 00:56:55.994
Yeah, definitely anything else you want to come on.

00:56:56.114 --> 00:56:56.998
I think we're good man.

00:56:56.998 --> 00:57:00.188
Okay, you go have some for me.

00:57:00.650 --> 00:57:01.594
I'm gonna do that tomorrow.

00:57:01.594 --> 00:57:05.201
Yeah yeah, trip without me to the in-laws, don't worry.

00:57:05.201 --> 00:57:06.163
Pictures forthcoming.

00:57:06.382 --> 00:57:08.286
Yeah, pictures, great pictures.

00:57:08.286 --> 00:57:09.608
He's great, they're my.

00:57:12.275 --> 00:57:14.163
They're very high quality photos.

00:57:14.163 --> 00:57:14.724
They are.

00:57:16.775 --> 00:57:18.681
Which makes it worse, by the way.

00:57:18.681 --> 00:57:23.039
Yes, get a nice picture of far and the only thing.

00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:24.766
I can think is far you.

00:57:24.766 --> 00:57:27.996
Yeah, you've told me that before I I'm sorry.

00:57:29.018 --> 00:57:29.298
All right.

00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:38.418
Jeff, yes, if people have any questions, comments, root comments, nice comments, concerns, letters to the editor.

00:57:38.418 --> 00:57:41.688
Where should they send those Feedback at basic af showcom?

00:57:41.688 --> 00:57:43.844
Okay, we do have a website with that too.

00:57:43.844 --> 00:57:51.385
If you want to go there and listen honestly, though, just subscribe in your podcast app, so the shows up listen to us, yeah, and say nice things about us.

00:57:51.445 --> 00:57:55.802
Go to the Apple site and, you know, Put us, give us five stars.

00:57:55.802 --> 00:57:56.746
We would appreciate it.

00:57:56.746 --> 00:58:00.436
And then, you know, say nice things about us or hateful things, we don't care.

00:58:00.436 --> 00:58:16.798
You can say we might even like hateful things better because, as I said before the bullstrapcom site, I Do a newsletter that will not reference that site, by the way, on these Apple related topics.

00:58:16.838 --> 00:58:24.949
So if you would like to subscribe to that, just went over the hundred subscriber mark, which is it's a lot for me because I'm just, you know, hey, that's pretty good.

00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:26.838
If I had a hundred people in the room I'd be a little nervous.

00:58:26.838 --> 00:58:27.320
Talk to that.

00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:28.043
Many people say yeah.

00:58:28.043 --> 00:58:31.405
So if you want to hit that Tom F Anderson comm, you can sign up there.

00:58:31.405 --> 00:58:32.780
Don't forget, check the show notes.

00:58:32.780 --> 00:58:35.077
We'll throw some links in for that Quiz.

00:58:35.077 --> 00:58:36.240
Do you need a smart watch?

00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:43.177
We'll put that in there and a couple of those, and not for me.

00:58:43.177 --> 00:58:52.317
And yeah, when we get to our gift buying guide later this year, you know what to get Jeff, who's our music from again Psycho kinetics.

00:58:52.878 --> 00:58:56.666
We're very grateful to psychokinetics for letting us use their lovely music.

00:58:56.666 --> 00:59:06.621
Also Celsius 7, one of the front men for psycho kinetics, and we have podcast artwork by Randall Martin design which we highly recommend that you look, randall, up.

00:59:06.621 --> 00:59:08.686
All of that information in the show notes.

00:59:09.376 --> 00:59:11.827
It is, and so that is a wrap.

00:59:11.827 --> 00:59:13.855
Thank you once again for being here with us.

00:59:13.855 --> 00:59:22.514
We we're greatly appreciative that you'll spend some time with us, and I hope you have the rest or a great rest of your day or night and we'll talk to you next time.

00:59:23.054 --> 00:59:23.936
See you later, tom.

00:59:23.936 --> 00:59:24.815
Have some fun.

00:59:24.815 --> 00:59:25.797
Bye Jeff.